My EVE

Dear Pod Pilots,

It is with considerable regret that I have to inform all of you that on May 1st, 2012, Google is terminating the knol service. That means that I will no longer be working on updates to the following articles:


upsideyourhead. Chapter I: Ship Motion in EVE-Online:Theory and Techniques [Internet]. Version 106. Knol. 2011 Mar 6. Available from: http://knol.google.com/k/upsideyourhead/chapter-i-ship-motion-in-eve-online/2mdavnicxps8v/4.

upsideyourhead. Tackling on Large Gates in EVE-Online:Optimal Positioning for Region/Constellation Gates [Internet]. Version 38. Knol. 2010 Apr 3. Available from:http://knol.google.com/k/upsideyourhead/tackling-on-large-gates-in-eve-online/2mdavnicxps8v/3.

upsideyourhead. Mathematical Foundations of EVE-Online:Forward to the Knol Edition [Internet]. Version 33. Knol. 2010 Jul 1. Available from: http://knol.google.com/k/upsideyourhead/mathematical-foundations-of-eve-online/2mdavnicxps8v/2.


Thank you for the comments and interest over the past two years.


Warm regards,

S. Santorine

Hoarr,

Thanks for the note. To answer your questions, I have decided not to migrate the articles at this time. For one thing, the migration tools for wordpress/annotum made a number of errors that I could not get the Google team to fix. Second, as far as I could tell, the wordpress format did not allow me to group the writing in chapters. Its really a tool setup for blog posting, which was less appealing to me. Having said that, there is a chance that I will repost the articles using Google Docs, because the formatting interface is similar.

As for publishing subsequent chapters, I did in fact complete much of the theory for those chapters, including lots of matlab code for several experiments. The time consuming part, however, is in the writing (and occasionally in the data taking). So, the answer to your second question is that the tracking chapter was never complete enough to publish. I didn't want to just put all the theory out there without having run all the experiments for it. In some sense, the motion chapter was not finished either because I had written a couple more sections that I never published for it.

See, this is what happens when I get a job -- doing real math all day means I'm burned out for fun math when I get home... It really is too bad that Google is shutting down knol. I will post another note if/when I make the articles available elsewhere on the web.


S. Santorine

I was just a couple of weeks too late in my attempt to find such an article! Arggg.

I've been trying to find equations that explain how agility and/or inertia modifier affect a ship's min range at a given speed: how close can a ship orbit, steady state-ish, at max speed (un-modified), at max speed (w/ MWD or AB)?

My hope is that once I know how that part of the game's physics work, I can work backwards to find a sweet spot for my ship against other classes of ships.

For example, take a random cruiser with cruiser-class hybrids that track about .15 rad/sec. If the ship goes max (no mods) 200 m/s, it needs to orbit at least 1,300 m to maximize tracking, well inside of optimal for cruiser-class hybrids.

BUT, can a cruiser with an inertia modifier of .585 and weighing 12,000,000 kg be able to pull off such a maneuver if was at 200 m/s? How about at 1,200 m/s (w/ MWD)?

My experience tells me it can do the first and definitely not the second. So, how might I estimate where a ship will settle into a steady state orbit at a given speed?

Knowing where this ought to be will affect where I command the ship to orbit. From my experience, if I want an orbit at, say 10,000 m, and I think I'm going too fast for that, I'll command an 8,000 m orbit knowing it will drift outward a bit.

If your document answered the above question on orbital mechanics -- might you be able to re-share it? I've been looking for several days now and have found plenty that talk about orbital mechanics (real world), but nothing that explains Eve orbital mechanics and solving the above problem.

Thanks in advance for anything you can offer!

S. Santorine,

I was loving those articles you wrote, being an engineer who plays EVE, but after having found them a long while ago and wanting to look at them again, I was very disappointed to find out that they were no longer available.

As a last ditch effort, I checked to see what was available on Google's Cache, but while some of the articles are there, none of the math equations are visible since they seem to have been images, so this makes the cached version just about worthless.

Were you aware that knol.google.com allows you to download your posts to a file? Would you please at least post that file for the community to recreate the works on another blog/site?

This is open information and beneficial to the EVE community, so we'd all appreciate the effort to keep this information alive and it's disappointing to see something like this on the internet just die without having been moved to another place.

Thanks.

Aknor Jaden