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DUST 514 Just played the BETA.. My thoughts and FACTS.
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NickyYo
modro
The Initiative.
#1 - 2012-08-02 23:45:22 UTC  |  Edited by: NickyYo
Ok just played the DUST 514 BETA, and my first impressions are not good.

I want to make clear that yes this is BETA and a lot of work is still being done but i feel no matter how much work they put in, it won't improve the game in the long run.

Why you ask? well remember a game called command and conquer Renegade? if not heres a link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNuO0J7TRMI its almost exactly the same as DUST 514 and guess what Renegade X is coming out soon http://www.joystiq.com/2012/01/27/candc-renegade-remake-renegade-x-black-dawn-deploys-tomorrow/ and here is a video of renegade x, looks familiar? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNpPQN758uc

I would also like to point out that this game DUST514 is more aimed for pc players not console players, console players need instant attention satisfaction point and shoot. Not all this setting up etc hence why redalert failed on console.

The graphics are god awefull and its just confusing, 3rd person while in the station and 1st person on the ground?

I hope i am wrong and it succeeeds, if not then it's going to drag EvE down big!

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BBJ Shepard
#2 - 2012-08-02 23:48:33 UTC
NickyYo wrote:
Ok just played the DUST 514 BETA, and my first impressions are not good.

I want to make clear that yes this is BETA and a lot of work is still being done but i feel no matter how much work they put in, it won't improve the game in the long run.

Why you ask? well remember a game called command and conquer Renegade? if not heres a link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNuO0J7TRMI its almost exactly the same as DUST 514 and guess what Renegade X is coming out soon http://www.joystiq.com/2012/01/27/candc-renegade-remake-renegade-x-black-dawn-deploys-tomorrow/

I would also like to point out that this game DUST514 is more aimed for pc players not console players, console players need instant attention satisfaction point and shoot. Not all this setting up etc hence why redalert failed on console.

The graphics are god awefull and its just confusing, 3rd person while in the station and 1st person on the ground?

I hope i am wrong and it succeeeds, if not then it's going to drag EvE down big!

okye(:

?(:
Buoytender Bob
Ronin Exploration Mission and Mining
#3 - 2012-08-02 23:49:38 UTC
No NDA was harmed in the OP's posting.......

How about posting in the DUST forums?

To buck the popular trend, I began to Rage Start instead of Rage Quit.

...and every time I get another piece of Carbon, I know exactly what CCP is getting this Christmas.
NickyYo
modro
The Initiative.
#4 - 2012-08-02 23:53:30 UTC
Buoytender Bob wrote:
No NDA was harmed in the OP's posting.......

How about posting in the DUST forums?


And a mod will move it if so, captain obvious..

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Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#5 - 2012-08-03 00:04:17 UTC
I'll just say what I've always said on this: If DUST 514 is fun then it will be a success. If it's lame and Halo 4 is better I'm playing Halo 4. Haven't played DUST yet still need to buy a PS3... but I will at some point.

Signatures should be used responsibly...
NickyYo
modro
The Initiative.
#6 - 2012-08-03 00:40:56 UTC
Update, my 12 year old brother has been playing for about 20 mins, he never touched the skillsheet or the market. Just point and shoot. He is now playing COD.

DUST is gunna need a miracle i have a few ideas, i will post in features section but i doubt CCP will listen they never do..

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Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#7 - 2012-08-03 00:43:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Roll Sizzle Beef
NickyYo wrote:
Update, my 12 year old brother has been playing for about 20 mins, he never touched the skillsheet or the market. Just point and shoot. He is now playing COD.

DUST is gunna need a miracle i have a few ideas, i will post in features section but i doubt CCP will listen they never do..


pegi18, way to go big bro.
NickyYo
modro
The Initiative.
#8 - 2012-08-03 00:44:59 UTC
Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:
NickyYo wrote:
Update, my 12 year old brother has been playing for about 20 mins, he never touched the skillsheet or the market. Just point and shoot. He is now playing COD.

DUST is gunna need a miracle i have a few ideas, i will post in features section but i doubt CCP will listen they never do..


pegi18


Its only pegi18 because of the micro-transactions. Is eve a pegi18?

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Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-08-03 00:46:33 UTC
BBJ Shepard wrote:
NickyYo wrote:
Ok just played the DUST 514 BETA, and my first impressions are not good.

I want to make clear that yes this is BETA and a lot of work is still being done but i feel no matter how much work they put in, it won't improve the game in the long run.

Why you ask? well remember a game called command and conquer Renegade? if not heres a link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNuO0J7TRMI its almost exactly the same as DUST 514 and guess what Renegade X is coming out soon http://www.joystiq.com/2012/01/27/candc-renegade-remake-renegade-x-black-dawn-deploys-tomorrow/

I would also like to point out that this game DUST514 is more aimed for pc players not console players, console players need instant attention satisfaction point and shoot. Not all this setting up etc hence why redalert failed on console.

The graphics are god awefull and its just confusing, 3rd person while in the station and 1st person on the ground?

I hope i am wrong and it succeeeds, if not then it's going to drag EvE down big!

okye(:


Wrong forum. I dont care about dusk this is eve forum keep it that way thanks.

/c
Syphon Lodian
Fabled Enterprises
#10 - 2012-08-03 00:47:39 UTC
Tricky situation regarding their desire to not cannibalize their own market on PC, and going the route of PS3, yet also making the game robust and "complex".

I won't say much, but grant the OP is correct in some way, especially the attention-span of the average console shooter. They want to jump in and play. Though, DUST 514 has a lot of potential and I will withhold judgment.

It could be that most consolers have never played something like this with complexity, and will embrace it. The cost of entry is 0 dollars, so why not? I hope for it's success.... I want to see EVE integrated with DUST and I want that feature to blow up and be amazing.
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#11 - 2012-08-03 00:49:31 UTC
Dust need to be epic like EVE was to gain traction i didn't saw that so far.

Will link to EVE or bombardment kick start it..maybe,it need to be uber not just another shooter question is is it?

I hope it is or else we have another failure to bail.\ out.

You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear

Because >>I is too hard
D3F4ULT
#12 - 2012-08-03 00:51:14 UTC
Here to state

"Gameplay > Graphics"

Ever played Minecraft?

"Bow down before the one you serve, you're going to get what you deserve"
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#13 - 2012-08-03 00:58:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Roll Sizzle Beef
NickyYo wrote:

Its only pegi18 because of the micro-transactions. Is eve a pegi18?


EvE is pegi12. Likely because people aren't represented as blood balloons being riddled with a 50cal.
Xiang Jing
State War Academy
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-08-03 01:03:05 UTC
A couple Eve fans I have talked to online have also expressed a lot of disappointment with Dust. I'm not a huge FPS guy so it doesn't interest me much, but I hope for Eve's sake it can succeed.

As an aside, C&C Renegade was awesome, don't be hatin' on C&C. Except for the modern ones. They kind of suck.
NickyYo
modro
The Initiative.
#15 - 2012-08-03 01:04:56 UTC  |  Edited by: NickyYo
I foresee the future..

6 months after DUST514 release CCP will make a press release stating they were wrong and that they are sorry they are now going to release it on PC and will listen to the eve players again...

Thus meaning all eves current management will be sacked, sorry if im wrong saying that but that is what a foresee.
How many **** ups is there going to be with eve and dust combined? in the near future? i foresee alot!

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Jimmy Gunsmythe
Sebiestor Tribe
#16 - 2012-08-03 01:08:35 UTC
Syphon Lodian wrote:
Tricky situation regarding their desire to not cannibalize their own market on PC, and going the route of PS3, yet also making the game robust and "complex".

I won't say much, but grant the OP is correct in some way, especially the attention-span of the average console shooter. They want to jump in and play. Though, DUST 514 has a lot of potential and I will withhold judgment.

It could be that most consolers have never played something like this with complexity, and will embrace it. The cost of entry is 0 dollars, so why not? I hope for it's success.... I want to see EVE integrated with DUST and I want that feature to blow up and be amazing.


Never listen to Nicky, he will troll you right out of your underwear.

For instance, just because his TWELVE year old brother has no interest in the intricacies of the game is no reflection on the game itself. I personally take the time to look over my character sheet and the market and mess around. Truthfully, within the confines of a FPS, you will get out of it what you put into it.

I will say the current cycle is not as deep as the previous one, but that's all I'll say.

John Hancock
NickyYo
modro
The Initiative.
#17 - 2012-08-03 01:08:46 UTC
Xiang Jing wrote:

As an aside, C&C Renegade was awesome, don't be hatin' on C&C. Except for the modern ones. They kind of suck.


What about renegade x?

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NickyYo
modro
The Initiative.
#18 - 2012-08-03 01:11:44 UTC
D3F4ULT wrote:
Here to state

"Gameplay > Graphics"

Ever played Minecraft?


Is there a minecraft on console?

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Lyskal Oskold
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2012-08-03 01:16:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Lyskal Oskold
I'm only a EVE player by a few months but I have to agree with the OP. However!

Xbox 360 had a game called Chromehounds, which was a launch title that involved micro transactions (the default live subscription as well), robotic tactical warfare and lots of fitting and preparation. It ended up obtaining a die hard player base and lasted for years before SEGA finally turned the servers off.

You never know, PS3 has tons of over-entitled college/university students as it's main player base. They should feel the call of a game that will "prove" they're smarter and more 'loldeep' than the average console gamer.

CCP can win this one, just need to play it carefully. Also I like Command and Conquer but I'm not going near that, 4 never happened. *rocks back and forth*

tl;dr: You may be pleasantly surprised, console gamers aren't as finicky as the common EVE player.

"Love is just a chemical, no matter the origin. We give it meaning by choice." - Eleanor Lamb
Lyskal Oskold
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2012-08-03 01:17:13 UTC
Woops, double post*

"Love is just a chemical, no matter the origin. We give it meaning by choice." - Eleanor Lamb
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