EVE General Discussion

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How do you know for sure?

For all we know the gun will keep increasing in strength as long as it's firing at *something* and once your frigate returns to the gate it will simply get instagibbed once cycled to.

I still don't think it's a good blanket fix, but I'm fairly sure if CCP's intention is to remove gatecamps in lowsec they'll implement a solution that deals with warping in and out as well.

I like that idea. Jump gates become Jump cannons that plop you somewhere within 5-30 AU of the system's star?

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In the strategy i mentioned the frigate doesn't come back after warping out , it's only purpose is to tackle the target and warp out.
Also , shurely the sentry can't keep getting strongeras long as it's shooting , because this would mean that in large gang fight the sentry would eventually one shot everything , this would would be even worse imo.

Two things:
- I want low sec to be full of casual PVPers.
- Nothing is going to overcome pure ignorance and extreme risk averseness



Right now, low sec is the home to pure casual PVP. That will be dying a horrible death.



IMO the problem isn't gate camps. If that were true, there would be NOBODY in null sec - where entry systems ACTUALLY ARE camped most of the time.

-Liang

PvP will move, more people will enter low, the sky will not fall.

Boost reward. Rework minerals across the board so that lowsec ores aren't hilariously inferior to highsec ores. Increase the bounties of lowsec rats across the board, and increase the chance for larger/harder rats to spawn.

EDIT: Also, rather than a huge boost to lowsec reward, this should be accompanied by a small nerf to high sec reward., e.g. 5-10% off the current bounties of high sec mission rats.

Yes, yes it is. I'm not sure if you've seen some of the threads about crimewatch, but he is so hellbent on implementing his suspect system that he is disregarding everything else.

Crimewatch doesn't need a huge rework. It needs three things:
1.) Neutral RR changes
2.) EXPANDED (not reduced as in the suspect system) opportunities for corporations to work together and defend their members, preferably expanding this ability to alliances as well
3.) A bit more instruction/tutorial stuff to make sure that new players understand it.

The problem is that this suggestion doesn't particularly change that. In fact, if anything, it makes it even more dangerous to pop in since you can no longer rely on small size and speed to go through — if fast-tackling frigates are now giving a chance to act, then the first casualty will be pods and newbie frigates (and the second will be covops and blockade runners).

Right now, you can at least tell people to go in something small, fast, and cheap, and they'll have a fair chance of skipping right past anything but the fabled Rancer smartbomb camp. With variable damage that doesn't even hurt interceptors to begin with, that lesson is no longer valid. The fears can no longer be assuaged. Instead of answering “well, actually…” when someone expresses the belief that lowsec is insta-death, we'll have to answer “well… yes.”

Presently, that fear is a matter of education. This kind of change risks turning it into a matter of fact.

Give them more reason to go there and provide player-made and player-run (i.e. not server-run and mechanical) options for ensuring your survival. Ironically enough, the main issue I remember from my time living in lowsec was that it was if anything too difficult to keep people out… so you couldn't create a good perimeter defence. At least in nullsec, you can employ bubbles and slow people down. Securing a little slice of lowsec was far more (and ultimately futile) effort than the paltry additional benefits were worth.

At the same time, and to somewhat contradict that annoyance, getting past that first gate and into the deeper systems should be a significant barrier to entry, and the biggest problem isn't the barrier — neither its existence or its size — but rather than what lies beyond it is… let's call it underwhelming. Overall, barriers to entry are a good thing in EVE since it further plays on the overarching theme of benefiting from specialisation: if I can get enough special skills/skillz/stuff to overcome that barrier, and you can't, then I'd say that's a good thing. You will undoubtedly be able to spend the same SP/time/ISK on getting something completely different that I have to forego.

The gate aggro thing you mention has been part of what was talked about with the crime watch changes in the works. So I think that is being planned even if the gun escalation thing doesn't happen.

Low sec is still going to be dangerous, but folks are going to have to work a little harder to keep it that way. Also remember soon we are going to have a very much tougher mining barge that I hope to see folks trying out in low sec.

And to be very clear I am NOT suggesting Concord in low sec under any circumstance. Now player police that have a more Concord like aggro mechanism when aggressing other players I can pay to protect a mining fleet......hmmmm

Issler