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sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade
Ghost Legion.
#101 - 2012-08-02 22:14:04 UTC
[Hulk, New Setup 1]
Mining Laser Upgrade II
Damage Control II

Small Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II

Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II

Medium Processor Overclocking Unit II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II

Hobgoblin II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5


Look at 28K EHP from a 1 Shield Link Orca and still has awesome yield. God damn, the CPU, how you say. Well CCP give you two free impants that make it possible. Use um.

Now for the next 6 days, please stop derping shield boosting hulks to t1 fit dessi. You embrass all mines when you do.

Don't ask about Italics, just tilt your head.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#102 - 2012-08-02 22:19:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Do you even know what omni damage means?
Do you even know how to calculate omni damage?

Based on your screen shot, your EHP is (keep focused now, because this will involve a lot of numbers)…

4099*(1/(1-0.68)+1/(1-0.73)+1/(1-0.80)+1/(1-0.83))/4+2250*(1/(1-0.66)+1/(1-0.45)+1/(1-0.36)+1/(1-0.23))/4+2500/(1-0.58) = 28388 EHP.

By the way, the fit in your screen shot is not the fit you listed (and you could have picked a better screenshot since that one neatly obscures some rather important numbers that I had to guesstimate instead). When I fly the fit you listed on Sisi, I get 33,178 omni EHP. This is more than the 29.5k I would have gotten on TQ.

Hmm… I also get just under 4k m³/cycle yield, which means it's very close to what I'd get with a tripple-MLU Mack. So yeah, it's quite useless for everyone, obviously. Lol
Pipa Porto
#103 - 2012-08-02 22:21:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Pipa Porto
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
The Fitting Screen doesn't let you adjust damage profiles. So it's fairly useless for figuring out the Effective HP you'd have against certain attacks.


Do you even know what omni damage means?

29,5k (25/25/25/25)
23,8k (25/25/25/25)


Do you understand that CCP's fitting window doesn't use an Omni Damage profile and that that is why it's useless?

I'm sitting in a bomber right now with a CCP EHP of 2636.
The way it comes to that is by taking my lowest shield EHP (EMP at 1386*(1/.75)) and adding my lowest Armor EHP (exp at 392*(1/.9)) and adding my Hull HP 351


Total: 1386*(1/.75)+392*(1/.9)+351 = 2634.56

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#104 - 2012-08-02 22:23:31 UTC
Tippia wrote:
By the way, the fit in your screen shot is not the fit you listed (and you could have picked a better screenshot since that one neatly obscures some rather important numbers that I had to guesstimate instead). When I fly the fit you listed on Sisi, I get 33,178 omni EHP. This is more than the 29.5k I would have gotten on TQ.


Clearly 24496...
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#105 - 2012-08-02 22:27:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Clearly 24496...
…because you don't know how to calculate omni-damage. Try doing it. It's fun!

Anyway, I suppose we can add “does not know how the fitting screen calculates EHP” to the list of the many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many things you don't know about this game.

Hint: it calculates EHP, not by applying omni damage, but by picking the lowest rests for each tier and adding up the EHP you'd have if people could pick exactly what you're weakest against at any point. It's the worst-case scenario that can never actually happen because nothing in the game delivers damage in that way.


With that out of the way, would you like to explain why you tried to fudge your numbers to be lower than they're supposed to be by using a different fit than the one you listed? It's quite dishonest, you know…
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#106 - 2012-08-02 22:39:52 UTC
Tippia wrote:
With that out of the way, would you like to explain why you tried to fudge your numbers to be lower than they're supposed to be by using a different fit than the one you listed? It's quite dishonest, you know…


Exactly the same fit with TQ stats: 24088 (EVE)
It's higher but not much.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#107 - 2012-08-02 22:43:11 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Exactly the same fit with TQ stats: 24088 (EVE)
It's higher but not much.
…and that fit is…?
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#108 - 2012-08-02 22:44:13 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Exactly the same fit with TQ stats: 24088 (EVE)
It's higher but not much.
…and that fit is…?

The fit I've tested on SiSi.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#109 - 2012-08-02 22:47:17 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
The fit I've tested on SiSi.
…which is…?
Pipa Porto
#110 - 2012-08-02 22:48:02 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
The fit I've tested on SiSi.
…which is…?


...Constantly changing so he can always claim to be right.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#111 - 2012-08-03 01:28:48 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
The fit I've tested on SiSi.

…which is…?

...Constantly changing so he can always claim to be right.

Oh my, that's ...

Creative.

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