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Real Money Scamming - Totally Unacceptable

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Jim Era
#61 - 2012-08-02 21:59:35 UTC
LOL, this guy really thinks he can take legal action.

Wat™
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#62 - 2012-08-02 21:59:49 UTC
Crouching Tigress wrote:
Cavel Avada wrote:
Crouching Tigress wrote:
and you know whats its not really the matter of £100 as such. its just the whole non morality of it all. I mean yeah its fine a few stuff in game, but you know its just a bit sick.

Tell me if someone stole £100 or you, what would you do? SERIOUSLY?? and i dont mean in game i just mean generally? What would you do? What would you really think? I mean you could still havea chance to get it back, but even worse you cant, and CCP are willing to do nothing about it either. Which makes them just as bad.

I wonder what would happen if this was looked at legally? from CCP point of view, allowing this to happen?


The police would laugh at you. Hard.


lets find out then shall we...


Please do this & make sure you give us the full details, including the part where they look at you funny & giggle as you walk out the door.

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Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#63 - 2012-08-02 22:00:31 UTC
Crouching Tigress wrote:
Cavel Avada wrote:
Crouching Tigress wrote:
and you know whats its not really the matter of £100 as such. its just the whole non morality of it all. I mean yeah its fine a few stuff in game, but you know its just a bit sick.

Tell me if someone stole £100 or you, what would you do? SERIOUSLY?? and i dont mean in game i just mean generally? What would you do? What would you really think? I mean you could still havea chance to get it back, but even worse you cant, and CCP are willing to do nothing about it either. Which makes them just as bad.

I wonder what would happen if this was looked at legally? from CCP point of view, allowing this to happen?


The police would laugh at you. Hard.


lets find out then shall we...


Yeah, let's us do that. You call the cops and tell them that you have had 3 billion of your space-money stolen that you had gotten from selling game time in the game for real money.

But give me a minute? I need to prepare some popcorn, not salted because I'll ask you to cry over the bowl for me.

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

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Daedricbob
Sons Of 0din
Commonwealth Vanguard
#64 - 2012-08-02 22:01:03 UTC
eep
Butzewutze
Doomheim
#65 - 2012-08-02 22:01:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Butzewutze
Crouching Tigress wrote:
tears


tl,dr: OP can be scammed easily

Why did you turn your realmoney into monopolydollar at all? Now you cry because somebody stole your hotels? lol

Btw. nice how posts magically dissappear in this forum.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#66 - 2012-08-02 22:01:52 UTC
Crouching Tigress wrote:
i wont reply to anymore stupid "its ok to scam" posts....
Then quit. Please hand over your stuff before you go.

It is ok to scam because those are the rules of the game. You accepted them when you created your account. You accepted them when you downloaded and first started the client. You accent them any time the client craps itself and resets its settings.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#67 - 2012-08-02 22:02:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Jim Era wrote:
Hey guys, I have 147 PLEX that I need help moving. Anyone willing to help me?


I'll do it, in a Kestrel (pickup in Jita 4-4)

Crouching Tigress wrote:
Cavel Avada wrote:
Crouching Tigress wrote:
and you know whats its not really the matter of £100 as such. its just the whole non morality of it all. I mean yeah its fine a few stuff in game, but you know its just a bit sick.

Tell me if someone stole £100 or you, what would you do? SERIOUSLY?? and i dont mean in game i just mean generally? What would you do? What would you really think? I mean you could still havea chance to get it back, but even worse you cant, and CCP are willing to do nothing about it either. Which makes them just as bad.

I wonder what would happen if this was looked at legally? from CCP point of view, allowing this to happen?


The police would laugh at you. Hard.


lets find out then shall we...


LOL as a UK resident I can assure you that the police have much more interesting things to do than chase a games company in a country that they have no jurisdiction in, like check tax discs, hide in bushes to catch speeders, and lets not forget protect their local greasy spoon restaurant at all costs.

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Jim Era
#68 - 2012-08-02 22:04:38 UTC
Honestly, I bet after telling the police his story,(and seeing how gullible he is) they would promise to help him recover it for a fee. Lol

Wat™
Crouching Tigress
Doomheim
#69 - 2012-08-02 22:04:46 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Crouching Tigress wrote:
i wont reply to anymore stupid "its ok to scam" posts....
Then quit. Please hand over your stuff before you go.

It is ok to scam because those are the rules of the game. You accepted them when you created your account. You accepted them when you downloaded and first started the client. You accent them any time the client craps itself and resets its settings.



Can you show me the rule in the EULA that says you will be scammed with your real money, andyou must accept this. Tell me?

You are such a jobs worth tippia
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#70 - 2012-08-02 22:06:12 UTC
Crouching Tigress wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Crouching Tigress wrote:
i wont reply to anymore stupid "its ok to scam" posts....
Then quit. Please hand over your stuff before you go.

It is ok to scam because those are the rules of the game. You accepted them when you created your account. You accepted them when you downloaded and first started the client. You accent them any time the client craps itself and resets its settings.



Can you show me the rule in the EULA that says you will be scammed with your real money, andyou must accept this. Tell me?

You are such a jobs worth tippia


IT WASN'T REAL MONEY!!, it ceased to be so after you bought PLEX with it

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#71 - 2012-08-02 22:06:40 UTC
Crouching Tigress wrote:

lets find out then shall we...


Oh I see; you're a new Prencleeve account.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.
Jim Era
#72 - 2012-08-02 22:06:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Jim Era
Crouching Tigress wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Crouching Tigress wrote:
i wont reply to anymore stupid "its ok to scam" posts....
Then quit. Please hand over your stuff before you go.

It is ok to scam because those are the rules of the game. You accepted them when you created your account. You accepted them when you downloaded and first started the client. You accent them any time the client craps itself and resets its settings.



Can you show me the rule in the EULA that says you will be scammed with your real money, andyou must accept this. Tell me?

You are such a jobs worth tippia


Tigress~~dude, you paid for an in-game item with real money. Did you receive your PLEX, yes or no? Did CCP deliver the PLEX that you purchased with REAL MONEY?

On a side note, I remember a while back some guy was hauling $1k worth of PLEX unprotected and got blewed up.

Wat™
Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
#73 - 2012-08-02 22:07:58 UTC
You guys know I love research and Intel...

Moar google-fu resulted in this post where Tribal Band advertises space for rent. They also linked this map in Period Basis. Knowing OP wanted 3 stations (if he's talking about actual stations), the logical carebearish choice would be at the bottom left of the map, kinda at the end of the world, hidden from invaders... system being: PA-VE3 (factory), G-Q5JU (factory - medical) & Z-M5A1 (refinery).

From the advertisement & quote:

"- No obligation to join PVP!
- Your sov, your rules
- Protection from any roaming hostiles (we love pvp)
- Station systems, ice belts and similar available for renting
- Unlimited access to our jumpbridge network and our own facilities"

I took the liberty to underline the obvious carebear baits. Never fall for these. Renters always have to fight sooner or later.

"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro"
Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#74 - 2012-08-02 22:08:01 UTC
Crouching Tigress wrote:


Can you show me the rule in the EULA that says you will be scammed with your real money, andyou must accept this. Tell me?


You need to understand the difference between reality and a game world first. Come back when you have.

Also, any update on calling the cops? My popcorn is getting cold... :(

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.
Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#75 - 2012-08-02 22:08:44 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:

IT WASN'T REAL MONEY!!, it ceased to be so after you bought PLEX with it


If he hasn't figured it out after the other half dozens mentions of this, he certainly isn't going to now.

Stop trying to reason with him and just laugh at the silly monkey.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#76 - 2012-08-02 22:09:27 UTC
Crouching Tigress wrote:
Can you show me the rule in the EULA that says you will be scammed with your real money, andyou must accept this. Tell me?

You are such a jobs worth tippia


The real money is in CCP's hands. You didn't send the scammers any real money because, if you did, you'd be buying an in-game service with RL cash, which is not permitted.

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#77 - 2012-08-02 22:10:14 UTC
Crouching Tigress wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Crouching Tigress wrote:
i wont reply to anymore stupid "its ok to scam" posts....
Then quit. Please hand over your stuff before you go.

It is ok to scam because those are the rules of the game. You accepted them when you created your account. You accepted them when you downloaded and first started the client. You accent them any time the client craps itself and resets its settings.



Can you show me the rule in the EULA that says you will be scammed with your real money, andyou must accept this. Tell me?

You are such a jobs worth tippia


You weren't scammed with your real money. You don't seem to understand this.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#78 - 2012-08-02 22:10:16 UTC
Crouching Tigress wrote:
Can you show me the rule in the EULA that says you will be scammed with your real money, andyou must accept this. Tell me?
Just one problem: you were not scammed with real money.

You got scammed out of in-game currency — currency you don't even own (it's the property of CCP, and they still own it now that it appears in the scammer's wallet). The EULA doesn't prohibit this kind of scamming. In addition, as the reimbursement policy points out…
Reimbursement policy wrote:
1. Assets lost to a scam may only be reimbursed if the scammer used a verified bug to hide his intentions to scam. Generally in-game scams are allowed and considered a valid tactic as long as they are done via normal game mechanics.
2. Players are cautioned to use their best judgment when entering into agreements with other players. To avoid getting scammed, please read our article on scamming.
…it would only be illegitimate if they exploited any bugs. I'm fairly willing to bet that you simply transferred ISK to them — no bugs involved.
Crouching Tigress
Doomheim
#79 - 2012-08-02 22:11:41 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Crouching Tigress wrote:
Can you show me the rule in the EULA that says you will be scammed with your real money, andyou must accept this. Tell me?
Just one problem: you were not scammed with real money.

You got scammed out of in-game currency — currency you don't even own (it's the property of CCP, and they still own it now that it appears in the scammer's wallet). The EULA doesn't prohibit this kind of scamming. In addition, as the reimbursement policy points out…
Reimbursement policy wrote:
1. Assets lost to a scam may only be reimbursed if the scammer used a verified bug to hide his intentions to scam. Generally in-game scams are allowed and considered a valid tactic as long as they are done via normal game mechanics.
2. Players are cautioned to use their best judgment when entering into agreements with other players. To avoid getting scammed, please read our article on scamming.
…it would only be illegitimate if they exploited any bugs. I'm fairly willing to bet that you simply transferred ISK to them — no bugs involved.


so you failed to show me where i signed up to be alowed to be scammed then?
Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#80 - 2012-08-02 22:12:28 UTC
Crouching Tigress wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Crouching Tigress wrote:
Can you show me the rule in the EULA that says you will be scammed with your real money, andyou must accept this. Tell me?
Just one problem: you were not scammed with real money.

You got scammed out of in-game currency — currency you don't even own (it's the property of CCP, and they still own it now that it appears in the scammer's wallet). The EULA doesn't prohibit this kind of scamming. In addition, as the reimbursement policy points out…
Reimbursement policy wrote:
1. Assets lost to a scam may only be reimbursed if the scammer used a verified bug to hide his intentions to scam. Generally in-game scams are allowed and considered a valid tactic as long as they are done via normal game mechanics.
2. Players are cautioned to use their best judgment when entering into agreements with other players. To avoid getting scammed, please read our article on scamming.
…it would only be illegitimate if they exploited any bugs. I'm fairly willing to bet that you simply transferred ISK to them — no bugs involved.


so you failed to show me where i signed up to be alowed to be scammed then?


No. You failed to comprehend what you read.

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