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The "THOUSAND PAPERCUTS" project *REBORN!*

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1-Up Mushroom
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2011-10-11 21:50:51 UTC  |  Edited by: 1-Up Mushroom
So I'm bringing back this old thread from the old forums. Credit given where due to Akita T, shame she couldn't be here to start this thread herself. But here is a piece from the old thread:

START--

SO, WHAT IS THE "THOUSAND PAPERCUTS" PROJECT ?

It's an attempt to gather intel a lot of really small things that you put up with easily for some reason (usually because you got used to it after a while, short or long), but it still kind of bothers you to some tiny (or not so tiny) degree.
Each and every one of those things might not even really be annoying in itself (and at least for some, changing them might probably NOT be really worth CCP's time yet, to be honest), but there might be so many that they end up giving you an overall feeling of discomfort, or stress, or whatever you'd like to call it.


WHAT DO I WANT FROM YOU ?

If you have one such minor inconvenience, whenever you encounter it, please describe it in here.
THE SMALLER THE INCONVENIENCE, THE BETTER.
You know, the small things... those you'd feel embarrassed to file a bug report for since they're so insignificant, or even never really bother to start a thread about it for fear of being laughed at for being too whiny about something most people don't even consider that much of an inconvenience.
Things like:
* "I wish the use/trash options on the menu would have more distance between them"
* "I'd love if the timer for switching between ships was shorter than 30 seconds"
* "I hate that nebula background images are so low resolution, I see nasty colorbands and blocks on my monitor at high resolutions"
* "I don't like waiting 5-10 minutes for the remote asset list to reload"
* "I'd like it if when I create a fleet I'd be made squad commander by default"
* "I want more font options"
* "It would be great if I could select a default showinfo tab"
* "The blinking of the character sheet icon after claiming certificates annoys me, why do I have to open it again for it to stop blinking, I was just there"
* "The "location" turret position on the "shipname" model annoys me because "reason""
* "Why do I have to stop training a skill when I clonejump, can't it pause and resume automatically?"
...and so on and so forth.


WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS ?

Well, there are several.

First off, maybe that minor annoyance you always had has some way to be sidestepped that somebody else found but you weren't aware of (hey, weirder things have happened).
If you think you have a solution to one of the issues presented, don't be shy, say it.

Second, some of those things might be trivial to fix/change, and merely the fact they're brought forth will trigger their fix/change.
Yeah, a bit of too much wishful thinking, but you never know.

Finally, after enough of these minor annoyances are collected, hopefully the most commonly perceived as annoying ones that so far were deemed not worth the time will hopefully get some attention from CCP when they're brought up as individual items.
However, they would have to be common to quite a few people before they even deserve to be elevated to that particular status.

END--

Hopefully CCP will keep tabs on this thread and look for anything to improve. So get to poasting those little bugger!
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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2011-10-11 21:53:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project
Solstice Project wrote:

There's a papercut for you:

You should put the "THE SMALLER THE INCONVENIENCE THE BETTER" into the next line.
It looks stuck now and it really deserves it's own line.

Would look much better that way.

Thx.



Thanks. :)
zzzczyzoznzoz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#3 - 2011-10-11 21:53:38 UTC
aur/nex
get rid of it
no space barbie plz this is spaceships
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#4 - 2011-10-11 21:55:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Nova Fox
You are not akita.

Either way it was mentioned in FnI

*Loot logging for miners yeilds.

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CCP Zymurgist
C C P
C C P Alliance
#5 - 2011-10-11 21:58:27 UTC
Moved from General Discussion

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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2011-10-11 21:58:50 UTC

When i shoot a -10 pod,
i don't get a security status increase.

The only difference between him and the NPCs is, that he's no NPC.

I shoot stupid rats at plexes, belts and missions,
being from a different faction than the current empire and free to shoot,
also with negative security status, which is shown by clicking at the wrecks of the NPCs.

... but when i actually shoot a -10 pirate pod, all there is is a stupid killmail i don't care about.



Thx.
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#7 - 2011-10-11 21:59:13 UTC
zzzczyzoznzoz wrote:
aur/nex
get rid of it
no space barbie plz this is spaceships


Down Vote.

This isnt a minor inconvience, its a major feature overhaul you're asking for we're specifically asking to get rid of about a quater million usd of software right there.

Post something useful next time like...

PI windows not being stackable/movable

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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#8 - 2011-10-11 22:00:29 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:

When i shoot a -10 pod,
i don't get a security status increase.

The only difference between him and the NPCs is, that he's no NPC.

I shoot stupid rats at plexes, belts and missions,
being from a different faction than the current empire and free to shoot,
also with negative security status, which is shown by clicking at the wrecks of the NPCs.

... but when i actually shoot a -10 pirate pod, all there is is a stupid killmail i don't care about.



Thx.



If i remember right this was abused in the past.

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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2011-10-11 22:07:20 UTC

Something semi-related to above.


There are people in highsec with bounty on their heads,
yet they aren't criminals and i'm not free to shoot them.

This really makes no sense! :)


There was this guy undocking at the station, undocking,
having a too low faction standing, so the local police popped his ship.

There was enough time to check him, because i always check when the message appears.
(criminal bla you will be punished bla)

He had 20 Million ISK on his head and when his pod appeared ...
... the next step simply was a logical consequence ... lock, point, shoot.

CONCORD comes and blows me away,
while at the same time confirming the transaction of 20 Million ISK bounty to my wallet.

Simply makes no sense.


Oh and ...

I really hope he believed nobody would ever shoot him anyway,
just because it's ******* highsec. :)

Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2011-10-11 22:07:52 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:

When i shoot a -10 pod,
i don't get a security status increase.

The only difference between him and the NPCs is, that he's no NPC.

I shoot stupid rats at plexes, belts and missions,
being from a different faction than the current empire and free to shoot,
also with negative security status, which is shown by clicking at the wrecks of the NPCs.

... but when i actually shoot a -10 pirate pod, all there is is a stupid killmail i don't care about.



Thx.



If i remember right this was abused in the past.



How could that be abused ?



EDIT:

NEVERMIND, i get it ....... -.-
1-Up Mushroom
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2011-10-11 22:08:57 UTC
CCP Zymurgist wrote:
Moved from General Discussion


Why exactly what this moved to the F&I? The old one was kept in the General Discussion. Would like this moved back ther if posible or an explanation please Sad
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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#12 - 2011-10-11 22:57:30 UTC
1-Up Mushroom wrote:
CCP Zymurgist wrote:
Moved from General Discussion


Why exactly what this moved to the F&I? The old one was kept in the General Discussion. Would like this moved back ther if posible or an explanation please Sad



Because it was akita.

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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#13 - 2011-10-11 23:00:40 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:


EDIT:

NEVERMIND, i get it ....... -.-


You're welcome, Ive been around long enough to know that I have to try to abuse any new FnI when and if possible to my advantage as a shoot down point.

Trying to promote critical thinking.

Think, annoyances that you have when doing day to day things in eve.

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Euwen K Manning
Doomheim
#14 - 2011-10-12 01:24:50 UTC
Okay, let's think negative!

It really bothers me when i see my ship warp through stations and planets.

I also don't like it when I see large ships and capital ships moving around like they are balloons. Often ships appear to move as if they have no mass at all. Best example is when ships collide with objects. It makes me avoid it just so it doesn't look so stupid.

I don't like it when missile modules make the launching noise when they are deactivating due to loss of target.

Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#15 - 2011-10-12 01:36:18 UTC
Euwen K Manning wrote:
Okay, let's think negative!

It really bothers me when i see my ship warp through stations and planets.

I also don't like it when I see large ships and capital ships moving around like they are balloons. Often ships appear to move as if they have no mass at all. Best example is when ships collide with objects. It makes me avoid it just so it doesn't look so stupid.

I don't like it when missile modules make the launching noise when they are deactivating due to loss of target.




Subject 1 was discussed recently, and I hope somone at ccp might have noticed it, making all planets and heavenly bodies of that mass act like a warp bubble. So that when your path goes into a planet you get yanked out of warp.

It would annoy some fleets but theyll get smart and bounce around.


Subject 2 was attemped before, not sure what it resolved to but it seems like a dropped idea, in that mass would account for bumping mechanics, an interceptor would not be able to shove off a battleship at all sort of deal, an avatar would plow though entire formations flinging them all out of the way. QA however spawned 30 titans on an anchored POS and made it fly out of system with the fix and since then shut that idea down.

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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#16 - 2011-10-12 04:50:00 UTC
Heres a good paper cut.

Any time I try dropping a new module on an occupied slot it doesnt swap them out.

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Cpt Fina
Perkone
Caldari State
#17 - 2011-10-12 05:31:51 UTC
I tend to have a set of windows tat i believe is cruicial for me when I am in combat. These windows I feel take up unnecessary amount of space on the screen making it super hard to fit everything.
I made a screenshot of what i mean:

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/847/screenbz.png/

The red boxes are "dead" space that Have little to no use to me but that I cant remove.

For example, if I'm not probing after people I have no use for the ystem scanner tab or the moon analysis tab on my directional scanner, yet they're there and take up space where locked targets should appear.
The local chat is another window that ought to be smaller (horisontally), since during combat the chatbox section is of little to no interest.
Also, the people and places window for quick access to safespots take up unneccecary amounts of space and if tweaked wouldn't block the dronewindow if it were to be placed to the lower right corner.

I guess my point is that there are alot of small dead space areas that could be tweaked to that the end result would be a better view overall.


Secondly. there should be separate shortcuts to open the starmap and to open the solarsystem map. For a prober it tedious to have to load between the two as you alternate between setting waypoints and view the layout of the system.
Thur Barbek
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2011-10-12 08:55:20 UTC
Guy above me: try a bigger monitor or a larger resolution.

When i save a fit it doesn't save ammo... thus when im fitting suicide ships with 20 ammo in each gun i have to hold shift... drag ammo... type the amount in... for every gun. Instead of it auto putting ammo in like it does with all the mods when i load a fit. Even if it just saved ammo and put a full clip in each gun it would help a bit.

Or make a way to group up weapons in the fitting tab while docked... there might be a way to do this but idk how. There should also be an option to say yes fit rigs this time or auto fit every time with no warning... so i don't have to manually fit rigs on everything either.

There is no option for 6-9 jumps on the market for buy orders. It goes from 1,2,3,4,5,10. Did some really get that lazy and didnt want to program in 4 extra digits?

Not really a small thing but... invention requires 50 billion clicks to accomplish anything.

Please let us stack BPC's with the same me/pe.

I cant put packaged containers inside the station warehouses. So when i have everything organized, there sits X packaged GSC's in my inventory that i cant put anywhere. Anything packaged should be able to go into a container.
Cpt Fina
Perkone
Caldari State
#19 - 2011-10-12 20:54:04 UTC
Thur: Try a different game.

This thread is for sugessting improvements. What is wrong with you?
1-Up Mushroom
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2011-10-14 02:26:03 UTC
Would still like this moved back to General Discussions Sad
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