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Some questions on becoming a Ninja!
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Kaivar Lancer
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-08-02 17:52:39 UTC
I've spent the last few days learning to ninja salvage & loot. So far I've learnt the following, and am curious if I'm on the right path?

- FW zones can occasionally be lucrative. One time after 30 seconds of exploring in a FW zone, I found half a dozen player wrecks containing 60m worth of loot and salvage. That was a nice haul for such little effort.

- If doing proper ninja salvaging, find a system with lots of lvl 3 and 4 agents, but with few stations as possible.

- Send your probes to scan for ships AWAY from stations and star gates. If your scans include stations and star gates, you'll scan ships in transit which is NOT what you want.

- Seems to me that scanning down drones seems to be the quickest way of finding a mission runner??? If you scan down ships, sometimes you'll find non-mission running ships like Orcas, Noctis etc which wastes your time.

- Use a dedicated scanning ship like a Heron to probe for mission runners, and use a dedicated salvaging ship to do the salvage. ATM I use a Vigil but my cargo hold fills up quickly if I'm ninja looting, so I'm thinking of using a destroyer. Good idea?

- In my opinion, if you're going to ninja salvage, then you should ninja loot as well, especially if the mission runner is gone.

Seems to me that if you add ninja looting to your salvaging, you can make around 30+m per hour? In my first ninja run today, I scanned down a ship in 5 mins, and salvaged and looted for 10 minutes, and earned myself 10m in salvage and loot.

Questions:

Am I on the right path? Does anyone have advice on ninja looting? Do mission runners typically try to blow you up once you start flashing red?
Emma Royd
Maddled Gommerils
#2 - 2012-08-02 18:39:51 UTC
If you 'Steal' Salvage (it's not theft so you don't get aggro) and they fire at you, you can come back in a PvP ship if they're still around and fight whilever the timer is active.

You only get aggro when you start taking the loot (modules, ammo etc) from the wrecks.


Some mission runners, especially the newbie ones might fire back, in which case they'll probably get concorded so if you're quick you could ninja their wreck for tasty mission running boat loot :)

Personally the last time it happened to me, I just warped out of the mission area and let the rats see them and then warped back to carry on.
Astroniomix
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-08-03 03:30:17 UTC
Emma Royd wrote:
If you 'Steal' Salvage (it's not theft so you don't get aggro) and they fire at you, you can come back in a PvP ship if they're still around and fight whilever the timer is active.

You only get aggro when you start taking the loot (modules, ammo etc) from the wrecks.


Some mission runners, especially the newbie ones might fire back, in which case they'll probably get concorded so if you're quick you could ninja their wreck for tasty mission running boat loot :)

Personally the last time it happened to me, I just warped out of the mission area and let the rats see them and then warped back to carry on.

I've gotten quite a few people killed that way.
Serena Serene
Heretic University
#4 - 2012-08-03 10:59:52 UTC
About the scanning part:

I found it helpful to follow mission runners from their station to the system they run their mission in (where they warp off into "nothingness"), remember which direction they warp and then estimate their distance with the help of the directional scanner.

That way you have a rough idea where your .. customer .. is and you can place your probes better.

I didn't have much success with the "just scan the whole system and hope to find a mission runner"-approach. Then again, my scanning skills aren't that great.