Warfare & Tactics

No instead Eve should become something CCP tells us exactly how to play. Its not REALLY a sandbox after all is it?

Also, Xuixien, you're a funny man. "Yes, dont' allow capitals in FW". Instead of being silly and trying to meta-game here, go into your plex and orbit your button, we can, by mechanics, not touch you in there with any capitals.

Capitals are and have been huge force multipliers if properly used for quite some time and are in no way a deciding factor in the actual plex mechanics (and by derivation also FW) - I mean if your thrasher hordes plex our systems down we can't even rep our ihubs with caps. So seriously go get your rifter and go orbit buttons instead of metagaming, you're not very good at it.

Capitals need to stay in all of lowsec or need to be removed in all of lowsec regardless of FW because if they are not, then all halfway mature FW groups are going to drop out in order to fight other lowsec non-FW entities which, lets not forget exist in FW lowsec and in lowsec in general as well.

Don't dictate what we're generally allowed to fly or not to fly outside of plexes because that will simply not go well.

I never said "don't allow capitals in FW". I think you need to calm down a bit and think before you hit the "post" button.

Why do you need a cynojammer to keep me out of your plex?

Also if its in your system - then no problem - i'll come offline it with a minmatar alt.

Nope only the Corp who anchors it can offline it. If you want to do that "espionage" stuff you're gonna have do the work of inserting a spy alt into the corp. Good luck! o7

You can tell he's a MAN because his name is in CAPS.

At the risk of horribly deviating from topic, but for reasons it would not be polite to get into I feel the need to ask. Xuixien, how old are you?

Caps can be fun, I see no problem with them being deployed even frequently in FW. I am one of those people who flies everything from Merlins to T3s and Caps. To have my ship choice limited because I am in FW is silly. Plexes do that quite well already. If I want to fight frigs and dessies, I go into a minor plex.

Cynojammers would be a fun mechanic to use in FW, but it will probably never happen. CCP loves the null bears too much.

Why should there be caps in FW:

- Eve is a sandbox and people need to be able to fly whatever they please
- Plexes already restrict shiptypes and favor combat for different shiptypes and shipclasses thus making 'entry-level' pvp happen
- FW happens in low-sec : why should FW people, who have to fight non-FW entities on a consistent basis have their wings clipped and be prevented from using capitals in fights against those entities?
- A great many FW capital pilots hugely enjoy the capital fights regardless of the fact whether its Dread slugfests or Triage finesse

Should people think that caps don't belong into FW, which by the way happens nearly exclusively in lowsec, then it would be silly to allow them into lowsec at all and then you'd need to man up and ban capitals/supers from lowsec entirely. Or why would you put arbitrary restrictions on people who chose to be aligned with a certain empire faction and have them fight Gunfights with sticks ands stones and on the other hand not put those same restrictions on any people living in lowsec?

I wouldn't, however if we take on faith the assertion that the goal of those advocating the "wing-clipping" is a more level playing field between the better resourced and newer players. Capitals are easily attainable to many corps across all four militias, supercapitals less so, and are seldom deployed. Titans are the major force multipliers in the bracket that cannot neccessarily be reached by all militas at this point. Militia pilots are already restricted in opposing hisec, in docking rights in the stations of the opposing powers. Perhaps it would be helpful to offer carrot instead of stick, and offer greater flexibility in deployment within ones own space. Perhaps a jump bridge system contingent on maintaining a particular system tier. Would both render titans less cost effective, and provide a strategic motivation to plex devensively.

Capitals aren't the problem. Supercapitals are. Really the only thing that beats supercapitals are more supercapitals at this juncture, and its hard for any kind of FW entity (despite all being famously rich now) to compete with the #s and organization of 0.0 entities that can bring in a supercapital fleet from anywhere in EVE in a very short time frame.