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Pobunjenik
Resbroko Liberation Fleet
#61 - 2011-10-11 21:31:09 UTC
I respect your opinion, but I still support Rocky Deadshot's proposal.
Cozmik R5
Chez Stan
#62 - 2011-10-11 21:32:26 UTC
Pobunjenik wrote:
EVE haz trolls ?!


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Hans Jagerblitzen
Ice Fire Warriors
#63 - 2011-10-11 21:33:11 UTC
Don't blame me, I only troll the trolls!

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Pobunjenik
Resbroko Liberation Fleet
#64 - 2011-10-11 21:34:13 UTC
Cozmik R5 wrote:
Pobunjenik wrote:
EVE haz trolls ?!


Welcome to massively multiplayer online gaming Big smile


Read the whole thread. Your comment is an uninformed one.
Hans Jagerblitzen
Ice Fire Warriors
#65 - 2011-10-11 21:36:34 UTC
Rocky Deadshot wrote:
I have a suggestion for this. Make each account able to vote up or down on a post... any post that receives a net -5 score is defaulted as hidden (click to unhide). This would allow the community to dictate the direction of the forums.
Try that out for a bit.... obviously less important threads could easily be taken over by trolls... but more important ones would presumably receive enough traffic and interaction to keep important comments alive.


This would simply give all the trolls the ability to block anything they deemed constructive and therefore a threat to the lulz. All Millla needs is 4 alts and she can single-handedly destroy useful dialogue once and for all.

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Cozmik R5
Chez Stan
#66 - 2011-10-11 21:40:53 UTC
I kind of agree actually, but let's face it, a game which ENCOURAGES people to do bad, evil and devious things will attract a higher amount of trolls than games which try to crack down on such behavior.

But in close to 4 years playing EVE I haven't seen an increase or decrease in trolling activity, just new ones replacing old ones, and an obscene amount of useless alts.

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Pobunjenik
Resbroko Liberation Fleet
#67 - 2011-10-11 21:41:44 UTC
True, but the good guys can do the same to keep the informative stuff alive.
Pobunjenik
Resbroko Liberation Fleet
#68 - 2011-10-11 21:43:49 UTC
Cozmik R5 wrote:
I kind of agree actually, but let's face it, a game which ENCOURAGES people to do bad, evil and devious things will attract a higher amount of trolls than games which try to crack down on such behavior.

But in close to 4 years playing EVE I haven't seen an increase or decrease in trolling activity, just new ones replacing old ones, and an obscene amount of useless alts.


The problem here aren't genuine trolls.
As I said before, I'm OK with trolling as long as the troll actually helps the thread in a way (by answering the question, providing some information/insight). I mean, just skim read through this very thread - you'll see a massive amount of utterly useless, off-topic and straight out offensive comments.
The Apostle
Doomheim
#69 - 2011-10-11 21:47:19 UTC
Rocky Deadshot wrote:
This would easily allow forum moderators to go through and start taking out forum posts that have been taken over by trolls... as well as possibly allowing them to do some sort of active automatic hidden for any confirmed troll for like 5 days...

So if someone does post something that "may be of value" and a large alliance (for example) doesn't like the commentary they can send all their alts over to hijack the thread? (never happens here, just sayin').

You'd send the mods into overdrive and burn them all out. They'd lock just to reduce the workload. Which is why it's done....

Besides, a good troll is never spotted and a bad troll is easy to ignore.

Although... hmmm.... how many people actually block trolls? Can't see what they're saying about you if you do hey? Blink

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KaarBaak
Squirrel Team
#70 - 2011-10-12 01:47:18 UTC

LOL....How do you moderate a thread about trolling??

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Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#71 - 2011-10-12 01:57:42 UTC
Jada Maroo wrote:
I do my part by reporting potential communists.


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Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#72 - 2011-10-12 02:04:09 UTC
See this is why you should have a "Dislike" system. You can limit trolls based off of their "rep". If someone who trolls gets a low enough rep you either increase the time between posting, or even limit them from posting all together.

Sadly though you went with the hippy version, where no one can get hurt because someone neg repped them.

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Digital Messiah
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#73 - 2011-10-12 02:06:24 UTC
There is a big difference between sarcastic criticism and roast posting ponies.

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Rocky Deadshot
In The Goo
EVE Trade Alliance
#74 - 2011-10-12 02:38:21 UTC
on a side note

BRONIE HOOF!
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#75 - 2011-10-12 04:07:10 UTC
orcs relate to trolls like subcaps to supercaps, right?

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Naran Eto
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#76 - 2011-10-12 08:48:08 UTC
Doyey3731 wrote:
I've worked on several forums in the past, some very large ones, some small. You need to get a balance of trolls as forums can become uninteresting an stagnant without the odd troll. They get people's attention and make them come back. The balance of trolls has tipped over in this forum though and there are far far too many. There are methods to control it, although few/none appear to be in place on this forum.
To be fair though, the game itself is full of trolls. Local is just troll haven. So it stands to reason that the forums will be full of them.


It's not the quantity of trolls it's the quality of trolls, and sadly here we have soem very poor quality trolls, there are some very good ones but they're swamped by the low quality ones, many of which still haven't learned that outright insult is not real trolling.
Zleon Leigh
#77 - 2011-10-12 08:57:02 UTC
Joining in on discussion of moderation. Shocked

+1 to the OP

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Pobunjenik
Resbroko Liberation Fleet
#78 - 2011-10-12 11:05:12 UTC
Pobunjenik wrote:
The forum is a place for players to communicate with other players about various topics, right?
And it seems that the number of people simply trolling without any useful information has increased. It's come to the point where they continue harassing people until they hijack the thread or derail it from the initial problem/question/information.
This kind of kills the whole purpose of the forum, might as well shut it down.

We all know EVE, and we know how complex the game is. There is tons of stuff to learn and many of which is backed by tutorials and/or guides - but the little things are still a mystery to many a player.
I'm sure all of you reading this have at one point had to deal with these socially ******** jerks with damaged egos.

Something should be done against this kind of behavior.

And no doubt, there will be some lifeless jackass to go ahead and troll this thread.


Quoted myself to steer the thread back on track.
Also, this thread got trolled just as much as I thought it would be. And it's not even witty trolling, it's just uninteresting, lame, already seen wannabe-insults.

TROLLS,
Y U NO CREATIVE?

PS
Trolling is OK as long as it helps the thread (and not just this thread, I mean all threads).
But more often then not, trolling = spamming.
It's like having to scroll through pages of junk mail to get to the proper mail.
Trin Xi
#79 - 2011-10-12 20:07:43 UTC
Take my love, take my land
Write a post I cannot stand
I don't care, I'm still free
You can't take the troll from me

Take me out to the black
Tell them I ain't comin' back
Flame the thread, report with glee
You can't take the troll from me

There's no place I can be
Since I found Serenity
But you can't take the troll from me...

Post with someone else's main™.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#80 - 2011-10-12 20:16:55 UTC
Pobunjenik wrote:
Trolling is OK.

Glad we cleared that up.

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