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Exploit? CCP response requested .

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Braitai
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-08-02 05:55:21 UTC
I'm not sure if this is the right place to post about this, but..

http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/xjssf/hans_jagerblitzen_a_member_of_the_csm_exploited/

So, is activating an acceleration gate on arrival to avoid being tackled an exploit?

Spamming the acceleration gate as you land has been a "tactic" used in FW since before Hans started playing eve, the political issue here is an irrelevant distraction. This is the first time in nearly four years of FW that I've heard this described as an "exploit".
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Of Essence
#2 - 2012-08-02 05:57:45 UTC  |  Edited by: chatgris
Lol at the post talking about getting Hans removed from the CSM over this. What is he meant to do? Not warp when landing on a gate?

I did accuse a nulli guy of stabbing the other night when he did this... now that I know this... Oops
Cookies'n'Cream
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-08-02 06:05:24 UTC
Don't ALL acceleration gates work like this? ....and have since, like, forever? Is DurrDurrDurr just learning to play the game or wut?
Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-08-02 06:09:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Poetic Stanziel
Cookies'n'Cream wrote:
Don't ALL acceleration gates work like this? ....and have since, like, forever? Is DurrDurrDurr just learning to play the game or wut?
He's playing a meta-game with Minmatar.

He seems to think we'll lose massive morale over this, giving up Huola because we're too depressed to defend.
Gritz1
Ice Fire Warriors
#5 - 2012-08-02 06:10:46 UTC
Spot on braitai.
Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-08-02 06:11:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Poetic Stanziel
Cookies'n'Cream wrote:
Don't ALL acceleration gates work like this? ....and have since, like, forever? Is DurrDurrDurr just learning to play the game or wut?

Acceleration gates work similar to system gates. It's not a normal warp ... acceleration gates actually cause a session change. If you spam an acceleration gate, you'll get the Session Change in Progress message.

(IMAGE: screenshot of session change message)
Silence iKillYouu
Girls Lie But Zkill Doesn't
Pandemic Legion
#7 - 2012-08-02 06:54:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Silence iKillYouu
Durr durr and his band of lemmings are dumb as they come.

Also this plexing systems past vulnerable will be patched out soon enough.

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Pinky Feldman
Amarrian Vengeance
Ragequit Cancel Sub
#8 - 2012-08-02 08:40:04 UTC
Silence iKillYouu wrote:
Durr durr and his band of lemmings are dumb as they come.

Also this plexing systems past vulnerable will be patched out soon enough.


Ironic, that someone in KPP would call someone else dumb. Pot meet kettle?

Also, must be nice being able to get game mechanics changed since the CSM is on your side.

Minmatar dislike a game mechanic = Hans has fixed immediately
Amarr dislike a game mechanic = Must be complaining

The moar you cry the less you pee
Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-08-02 08:48:57 UTC
Pinky Feldman wrote:
Minmatar dislike a game mechanic = Hans has fixed immediately
Amarr dislike a game mechanic = Must be complaining
Propaganda much?

Exactly what's been fixed with FW besides the Goon exploits? That wasn't at Hans' request. That's just straight up common sense.

Acceleration gates are an external warp mechanism. It warps the ship, the ship doesn't use it's own warp drive.

And Hans has stated ... if you all want this mechanic to change, email him and he'll escalate the issue with CCP.

But it's been like this for a very long time, and only now are the Amarr making it out to be something new and damaging to the game. As though Amarr have never used it themselves. Stop with the hypocrisy, please.

If you all need a team building exercise, creating false rage over an old mechanic is not the best way to do that. Give each other hugs, instead.

Based on what some people have been saying, acceleration gates have behaved like this for years.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-08-02 09:06:52 UTC
i don't care about FW, minmatar and amarr....
However thing existed in game for years can't be simple named "exploit" and become a bannable offense. This is just stupid.

btw: camping gates is stupid too Cool

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Pinky Feldman
Amarrian Vengeance
Ragequit Cancel Sub
#11 - 2012-08-02 09:19:49 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Pinky Feldman wrote:
Minmatar dislike a game mechanic = Hans has fixed immediately
Amarr dislike a game mechanic = Must be complaining
Propaganda much?

Exactly what's been fixed with FW besides the Goon exploits? That wasn't at Hans' request. That's just straight up common sense.

Acceleration gates are an external warp mechanism. It warps the ship, the ship doesn't use it's own warp drive.

And Hans has stated ... if you all want this mechanic to change, email him and he'll escalate the issue with CCP.

But it's been like this for a very long time, and only now are the Amarr making it out to be something new and damaging to the game. As though Amarr have never used it themselves. Stop with the hypocrisy, please.

If you all need a team building exercise, creating false rage over an old mechanic is not the best way to do that. Give each other hugs, instead.

Based on what some people have been saying, acceleration gates have behaved like this for years.

Oh please, you guys have some of the worst propaganda on the planet. First we get criticized for having a poor strategy when we actively contest and then when we stop actively contesting Susan declares victory and Vordak calls leaving systems vulnerable us "abusing" the system. We actually like you in the Amarr militia Poe, even though you die to us in puzzling ways with puzzling fits, your blog posts actually get linked around in our fleets with people quoting parts and saying "at least Poetic understands whats really going on with our side" which is impressive that you're able to see much more big picture than most people seem to be able to.

If you want an exercise in hypocrisy, let me tell you about how Hans told me he can't control Susan or his own militia in response to Susan'stroll post and in the same breath told me I should do my best to control my militia and keep their rhetoric focused and constructive, if I care about the future of FW.

The moar you cry the less you pee
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#12 - 2012-08-02 11:34:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Bad Messenger
you are not getting anyone banned from action like that.

Warping fleet to gate and spamm acceleration gate activation is valid tactic even without bug so you can not say if they are intentionally exploiting possible bug or is it just coincidence. This tactic has been used many years, it has been use before Hans even started playing.
Dan Carter Murray
#13 - 2012-08-02 11:36:45 UTC
Braitai wrote:
I'm not sure if this is the right place to post about this, but..

http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/xjssf/hans_jagerblitzen_a_member_of_the_csm_exploited/

So, is activating an acceleration gate on arrival to avoid being tackled an exploit?

Spamming the acceleration gate as you land has been a "tactic" used in FW since before Hans started playing eve, the political issue here is an irrelevant distraction. This is the first time in nearly four years of FW that I've heard this described as an "exploit".


I'm pretty sure that spamming jump after landing on a stargate is also an exploit .

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Two step
Aperture Harmonics
#14 - 2012-08-02 11:56:51 UTC
My personal opinion is that this seems like a bug, and it should be fixed. I'll leave the exploit determination to CCP.

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Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#15 - 2012-08-02 11:59:19 UTC
Two step wrote:
My personal opinion is that this seems like a bug, and it should be fixed. I'll leave the exploit determination to CCP.


this bug has been fixed several times already but it keeps coming back.
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#16 - 2012-08-02 12:04:47 UTC
Fail propoganda is fail. 0/10.
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#17 - 2012-08-02 12:17:44 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
He's playing a meta-game with Minmatar.

He seems to think we'll lose massive morale over this, giving up Huola because we're too depressed to defend.


He realizes it's not real SOV, right?

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
Sokor Loro
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2012-08-02 12:25:59 UTC
Xuixien wrote:
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
He's playing a meta-game with Minmatar.

He seems to think we'll lose massive morale over this, giving up Huola because we're too depressed to defend.


He realizes it's not real SOV, right?


As opposed to....?

Also, I clearly remember being pointed while at 0 on an acceleration gate and not being able to jump. Last night our light stuff had points on targets...and THEN they warped away from us.

It's a bug that needs to be fixed, add it to the list. In itself it's not really an exploit. Doing it over and over, knowing exactly what's going to happen as opposed to what should be happening...thats the sketchy part. I don't think anyone should be banned over it, and I don't think Hans should be removed or anything extreme like that, but it's a CSM member's job to be an example for the community. Failing to point out, "hey, this isn't supposed to work, we probably shouldn't keep doing it" is what is messed up here.
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#19 - 2012-08-02 12:31:37 UTC
Guys, things are warping while pointed? What the (ellipses) (question mark)

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
Vyktor Abyss
Abyss Research
#20 - 2012-08-02 12:58:56 UTC
Several things fail here:

1. Coming to the forums to 'discuss possible exploits'
2. Idiotic accusations against a CSM just because you dont like them and he probably got away from someone once with a mechanic that has existed since FW began (or longer)
3. Yet more Damar (Oh wait not Damar because that polished turd can't post anymore...) bile
4. The waste of words in replies (including this one.)
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