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So the raised prices of everything are due to?
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2012-08-02 00:18:48 UTC
It's those damn Icelandic elves again! The underpants gnomes of Eve Evil

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#22 - 2012-08-02 00:40:37 UTC
Lipbite wrote:
It's funny how opinions changed lately: 3+ months ago most answers here would be "incursions caused 100% yearly price raise!!! nerf em" - but suddenly prices didn't drop after incursions nerf. So correct answer is - "combination of hulkageddon, drone poo nerf, bots ban, mission loot changes".


Prices started to fall just after the nerf to isk fountains. Hulkageddon had little to no impact upon the markets.
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2012-08-02 00:52:58 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Lipbite wrote:
It's funny how opinions changed lately: 3+ months ago most answers here would be "incursions caused 100% yearly price raise!!! nerf em" - but suddenly prices didn't drop after incursions nerf. So correct answer is - "combination of hulkageddon, drone poo nerf, bots ban, mission loot changes".


Prices started to fall just after the nerf to isk fountains. Hulkageddon had little to no impact upon the markets.

HAG significantly decreased mining output in highsec per stats given by CCP. On higher end minerals, sure, it would be meaningless, but it should have cause at least some spiking in low ends. Not sure how much trit speculation there was around other changes but that could easily dampen market reactions to HAG I guess.
Spurty
#24 - 2012-08-02 02:45:41 UTC
Anyone mention the next patch is coming with a buff to mining?

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TravisWB
#25 - 2012-08-02 03:23:51 UTC
The real reason price inflation is out of control is because the EVE economy is a COMMAND ECONOMY.

It is the opposite of a free market which cannot exist so long as CCP keeps nerfing it.

CCP changes how things work, that completely changes the economy and before the market can adjust CCP CHANGES IT AGAIN.

It is a socialist utopian COMMAND economy working just like all command economies work. Former Soviet Union, current Cuba, EVE online.

It has totally messed up the game.
Proletariat Tingtango
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2012-08-02 05:08:43 UTC
TravisWB wrote:
The real reason price inflation is out of control is because the EVE economy is a COMMAND ECONOMY.

It is the opposite of a free market which cannot exist so long as CCP keeps nerfing it.

CCP changes how things work, that completely changes the economy and before the market can adjust CCP CHANGES IT AGAIN.

It is a socialist utopian COMMAND economy working just like all command economies work. Former Soviet Union, current Cuba, EVE online.

It has totally messed up the game.


You're going places kid.
Chatte Noire
PepperPark Deep Space Operations
#27 - 2012-08-02 05:28:47 UTC
TravisWB wrote:
It is a socialist utopian COMMAND economy working just like all command economies work. Former Soviet Union, current Cuba, EVE online.


Yeah. No pricing regulations. No measures against monopolies. No tariffs on goods. No restrictions on tradeable amounts. No protection of customers. A true socialist economy. Yip yip.
Mal Ishos
Steecey's Industries
#28 - 2012-08-02 05:39:12 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Hulkageddon had little to no impact upon the markets.


You should confer with your esteemed comrade Pipa Porto as you seem to be straying pretty far from the party line. A ~40% reduction in Highsec mining in the first two weeks of Hulkageddon had to have some impact upon the markets. And, there's no denying that the indefinite extension of Hulkageddon with ~bonus prize~ an additional generous bounty on exhumers was an intentional ploy by your overlords to further manipulate the Tech market in order to line their pockets. To be honest, it's really nothing to be ashamed of. Checkmate, Goons. You win EVE again, but own up to it. Pop that collar; you earned it. Bear
Arkturus McFadden
Anukar
#29 - 2012-08-02 05:40:55 UTC
Nerfs.

That is all. All will be well again in New Eden in the next several months I'm sure.. Roll
Pipa Porto
#30 - 2012-08-02 06:04:27 UTC
Mal Ishos wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Hulkageddon had little to no impact upon the markets.


You should confer with your esteemed comrade Pipa Porto as you seem to be straying pretty far from the party line. A ~40% reduction in Highsec mining in the first two weeks of Hulkageddon had to have some impact upon the markets. And, there's no denying that the indefinite extension of Hulkageddon with ~bonus prize~ an additional generous bounty on exhumers was an intentional ploy by your overlords to further manipulate the Tech market in order to line their pockets. To be honest, it's really nothing to be ashamed of. Checkmate, Goons. You win EVE again, but own up to it. Pop that collar; you earned it. Bear


Previous HAGs didn't have much affect on mineral prices (market data's pretty clear on that). This one is a bit harder to judge.

In any case, the effect of a 40% drop in HS mining (part from HAG, part from a bot banwave) is probably relatively small compared to the >50% reduction in EVE-Wide mineral production. Drone Poop and Meta0 drops almost certainly amounted to more minerals than all of EVE's miners.

We also can't see the affect very easily because the Drone Poop/Meta0 nerfs, the nerf of a few NPC mineral faucets, and a banwave on mining bots all happened at about the same time as HAG started.

HAG very certainly did not account for all (probably not even most) of the mineral price increase, but I think "little to no" would be an overstatement.

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