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Does active shield boosting stack with passive shield recovery?
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The Chronophage
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-08-01 21:07:30 UTC
Sorry for the noob question, but I can't seem to find a definitive answer anywhere about this.

For example, if my passive regen is 30hp per second, and I fit a civilian shield booster which regens at 2hp per second, is my total shield regen effectively 32hp per second?

I've been debating this on eft since, in theory, does that mean I should look at the numbers for passive tanking vs active tanking + passive tanking to decide the best tank to go for?
Rezig Huruta
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-08-01 21:27:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Rezig Huruta
Passive regeneration is based on the ships shield HP.

Active boosting is not.

For example, a hurricane's shield recharge time is 1400 seconds.

It will be 1400s if you have 5,000 shield hp, or 10,000 shield hp.

The passive rate can be increased with mods, but the AMOUNT of shield HP you have determines how much is regenerated per second. Active shield boosting boosts a specific amount, NOT based on max shield HP. And it is active, not passive so you really can't combine the two.



This should also be in the New Player QA or the Ships & Modules forum.
The Chronophage
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-08-01 21:40:25 UTC  |  Edited by: The Chronophage
Ah, yes. How would I move this thread to ships and modules or new player QA?

So, in my lol example, fitting a civilian shield booster would actually be worse off than just using a passive tank? It's an extreme example but I want to ensure that I understood that correctly. I'm trying to eft fit a rattlesnake and I've just stumbled on this conundrum because in eve itself, you can see that active tanking and passive tanking are two different values while in eft they are obscured by the shield defense efficiency number.
Taoist Dragon
Okata Syndicate
#4 - 2012-08-01 22:06:14 UTC
When figuring out your 'shield tank' you need to mindfull of both the regeneraton of your shield and the boosting amount.

This is because your shield always are regenerating....so any boosting you do is on top of the natural regen amount.

Most people don't realise this as the natural regen of the shields is usually too low to really affect the tanking ability of the ship.
But if you fly a ship with a good regen (drake, rattler) then if you are looking at a boosting setup it is worth considering the regen.

Generally though you are better off picking one style (regen or boost) and fit to maximise your prefered one.

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.
The Chronophage
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-08-01 22:34:46 UTC
Taoist Dragon wrote:

This is because your shield always are regenerating....so any boosting you do is on top of the natural regen amount.

Most people don't realise this as the natural regen of the shields is usually too low to really affect the tanking ability of the ship.
But if you fly a ship with a good regen (drake, rattler) then if you are looking at a boosting setup it is worth considering the regen.

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Hmmm, ok. Therefore, in my example, according to you I will have an effective shield boost of 32hp/sec with active civi shield boosters.
Taoist Dragon
Okata Syndicate
#6 - 2012-08-01 22:44:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Taoist Dragon
Also bear in mind that shield regen is a staged figure. Not a fixed one. With max regen around the 30%-40% shield range.

So if your natural regen was 30 dps at peak regen and your were also boosting for 2 dps natural shield hp then at that point in time your shield tank would be 32 dps natural tank which is then modified by resists etc.

So is essence the answer to your question is Yes they do stack. However you are almost always better off fitting to improve one or the other rather than both.

Edit so in your example you are fitting a civi shield booster to a rattler........for such a small boost amount you would be better off fitting a shield resist mod or shield recharger to it to increase the amount you naturally regen against your targets

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.
Rengerel en Distel
#7 - 2012-08-01 23:02:34 UTC
http://www.eve-guides.com/other/passiveshield.php

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