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Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
#21 - 2012-08-01 19:13:54 UTC
Corina Jarr wrote:

Um... no.

The mail is real. Goons have been mailing it out regularly. Probably made some money off of it too.


Yup, goons have been getting a lot of mileage off of the stupid people that believe the astonishingly transparent lie that Hulkageddon is an ongoing event and the Goons are in charge.

So, for anyone that doesn't know: people regularly gank high-sec miners for fun and because it benefits the supply/demand balance of their null-sec supply chains if you give up. There's not some central command telling them what to do that can give them a list of non-targets and tell them to back off.
Taranius De Consolville
Doomheim
#22 - 2012-08-01 19:14:09 UTC
Corina Jarr wrote:
Taranius De Consolville wrote:
What

A

Douche

You have no clue, the mail is a fake, quite clearly and you sir are a fool

Another Goon alt trying to make Goons look big and scary.

Your not

Your just another Null Sec alliance who think's you actually matter in the grand scheme of things.

Your *Burn Jita* did annoy market areas but did no lasting damage.

Crawl back into your hole.

Um... no.

The mail is real. Goons have been mailing it out regularly. Probably made some money off of it too.


Ofc mate, let me tell your something about Goons, do you know why they are so big? Because anyone can say and do as they like in that alliance and the alliance heads love it.

Goons and Test, are doing well, but like BOB, there time will come and when it does, a new power will rise and kill them, utterly, for all i know plans may be moving into place to do just that. I suggest, you learn from history, CA was the power, then came BOB, then came Goons, then came Test, Test would own Goons hands down and they know it.

There is blood in the water my friend and the sharks are circling.
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#23 - 2012-08-01 19:23:05 UTC
Taranius De Consolville wrote:

There is blood in the water my friend and the sharks are circling.


insinuating someone is wounded.
Pipa Porto
#24 - 2012-08-01 20:04:15 UTC
Kitty Carr wrote:
My attackers were partially concorded, my hulk had a tank, but they had several destroyers.


1. They all got CONCORDed if they got a shot off.

2. You did not have a tank worth mentioning. LOLShieldbooster.

With a TQ Hulk, You can be unprofitable to gank in a .5 if you use all your slots to tank. You can be unprofitable to gank in a 1.0 if you use all your mids/rigs to tank. In between, you may need to use one low to be unprofitable to gank.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Russell Casey
Doomheim
#25 - 2012-08-01 20:12:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Russell Casey
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Well, if you're concerned, fly a skiff with a tank. Sure, you'll lose around 25% yield from a hulk, but you'll have over 100k ehp (still gankable. But not profitably).



The same people who refuse to sacrifice yield in order to tank their barges now will be the same people refusing to fly skiffs over more efficient but weaker mining ships after the changes.

You can't patch stupid.
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#26 - 2012-08-01 20:20:17 UTC
Taranius De Consolville wrote:
Corina Jarr wrote:
Taranius De Consolville wrote:
What

A

Douche

You have no clue, the mail is a fake, quite clearly and you sir are a fool

Another Goon alt trying to make Goons look big and scary.

Your not

Your just another Null Sec alliance who think's you actually matter in the grand scheme of things.

Your *Burn Jita* did annoy market areas but did no lasting damage.

Crawl back into your hole.

Um... no.

The mail is real. Goons have been mailing it out regularly. Probably made some money off of it too.


Ofc mate, let me tell your something about Goons, do you know why they are so big? Because anyone can say and do as they like in that alliance and the alliance heads love it.

Goons and Test, are doing well, but like BOB, there time will come and when it does, a new power will rise and kill them, utterly, for all i know plans may be moving into place to do just that. I suggest, you learn from history, CA was the power, then came BOB, then came Goons, then came Test, Test would own Goons hands down and they know it.

There is blood in the water my friend and the sharks are circling.

Um.. ok.

Maybe Goons will fall, maybe not. In the end it won't matter. EVE will stay EVE.
Pipa Porto
#27 - 2012-08-01 20:23:30 UTC
Russell Casey wrote:
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Well, if you're concerned, fly a skiff with a tank. Sure, you'll lose around 25% yield from a hulk, but you'll have over 100k ehp (still gankable. But not profitably).



The same people who refuse to sacrifice yield in order to tank their barges now will be the same people refusing to fly skiffs over more efficient but weaker mining ships after the changes.

You can't patch stupid.


Currently, people are gonna be flying Mackinaws. They're the most efficient Exhumer that passes the not-worth-ganking threshold. The Skiff's worthless with the current SISI stats.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
#28 - 2012-08-01 20:32:14 UTC
Taranius De Consolville wrote:
What

A

Douche

You have no clue, the mail is a fake, quite clearly and you sir are a fool

Another Goon alt trying to make Goons look big and scary.

Your not

Your just another Null Sec alliance who think's you actually matter in the grand scheme of things.

Your *Burn Jita* did annoy market areas but did no lasting damage.

Crawl back into your hole.


I'm scared. Tell me more.
Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management
#29 - 2012-08-01 21:32:44 UTC
Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:
Taranius De Consolville wrote:

There is blood in the water my friend and the sharks are circling.


insinuating someone is wounded.


I think it may be the butthurt leaking

Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method Mamma didn't raise no victims.
Hiyora Akachi
Blood Alcohol Content
T O P S H E L F
#30 - 2012-08-01 21:53:50 UTC
Lol a guy who's angry with the Goons.


Please, continue to tell us how the big bad Gewns make EvE such a terrible place to be. And how they'll die soon despite showing no signs of it.


Get a freaking life....
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#31 - 2012-08-01 22:19:00 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
Russell Casey wrote:
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Well, if you're concerned, fly a skiff with a tank. Sure, you'll lose around 25% yield from a hulk, but you'll have over 100k ehp (still gankable. But not profitably).



The same people who refuse to sacrifice yield in order to tank their barges now will be the same people refusing to fly skiffs over more efficient but weaker mining ships after the changes.

You can't patch stupid.


Currently, people are gonna be flying Mackinaws. They're the most efficient Exhumer that passes the not-worth-ganking threshold. The Skiff's worthless with the current SISI stats.


Fill me in as I hadn't heard anything negative about the skiff yet.

It gets a huge mining bonus still (unless of course they changed it), is it an issue with the size of it's ore hold?

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#32 - 2012-08-01 22:22:07 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:


Fill me in as I hadn't heard anything negative about the skiff yet.

It gets a huge mining bonus still (unless of course they changed it), is it an issue with the size of it's ore hold?


Mack is the AFK miners dreamboat and it can tank enough to be ignored by most gankers out there which having a good yeild and massive bay. Granted I fully expect miners to fail to fit a tank to these things but it does edge onto the skiffs job a bit.
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#33 - 2012-08-01 22:23:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Richard Desturned
Kitty Carr wrote:
my hulk had a tank


You had a "tank the rats while AFK" fit, not a "have a chance of surviving a Catalyst gank" fit. Not that it would have helped you against that many Thrashers in an 0.5 system in any case.

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
Unit757
North Point
#34 - 2012-08-01 22:28:09 UTC
As much as these changes may slightly decrease the amount of ganks, I have a feeling that bumping afk barges could become a new hobby, which is were the skiffs higher speed and manoverability might pay off. Barge bowling anyone?
Hypercake Mix
#35 - 2012-08-01 22:34:35 UTC
Unit757 wrote:
As much as these changes may slightly decrease the amount of ganks, I have a feeling that bumping afk barges could become a new hobby, which is were the skiffs higher speed and manoverability might pay off. Barge bowling anyone?

50 mil ISK to the first video of miners being successfully bumped into a 10-pin formation.
EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#36 - 2012-08-01 22:38:58 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Well, if you're concerned, fly a skiff with a tank. Sure, you'll lose around 25% yield from a hulk, but you'll have over 100k ehp (still gankable. But not profitably).

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1686758#post1686758

not if you consider a shield booster a "tank" you won't
EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#37 - 2012-08-01 22:40:09 UTC
Taranius De Consolville wrote:
Test would own Goons hands down and they know it.

There is blood in the water my friend and the sharks are circling.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#38 - 2012-08-01 22:50:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Total Damage Taken: 6,550

FYI, this is a current tanked Hulk on TQ (without tanking implants or siege/armor booster or overheating):

EFT stats (current): 32,576 EHP (22779 shield / 2265 armor / 7533 structure), 121 DPS shield tank [passive recharge]

[Hulk, EHP]
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
Internal Force Field Array I

Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


Hobgoblin II x5
Mining Drone II x5
Suqq Madiq
#39 - 2012-08-01 22:54:10 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Pipa Porto wrote:
Kitty Carr wrote:
My attackers were partially concorded, my hulk had a tank, but they had several destroyers.


1. They all got CONCORDed if they got a shot off.

2. You did not have a tank worth mentioning. LOLShieldbooster.

With a TQ Hulk, You can be unprofitable to gank in a .5 if you use all your slots to tank. You can be unprofitable to gank in a 1.0 if you use all your mids/rigs to tank. In between, you may need to use one low to be unprofitable to gank.


Nobody but you whiny ganker wannabes care about gank profitability. Take your stuff back to the threadnought you can't seem to get enough of. I think somebody there might have posted something worth you crying over in the time it took you to make this post.
AdmiralJohn
The Unknown Bar and Pub
#40 - 2012-08-01 23:03:18 UTC
EvilweaselSA wrote:
Taranius De Consolville wrote:
Test would own Goons hands down and they know it.

There is blood in the water my friend and the sharks are circling.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Hey, you're hurting my feelings Cry