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Ok, not sure where else to put this. Move it or delete it as you see fit.

This is about FW recent patch changes. Those changes have:

1. Drastically increased the number of fights. This is most excellent.
2. Drastically increased the amount of alts in gunless and/or low skilled frigs flipping minor, medium and major plexes. This is bad.
3. Encouraged meta gaming and farming alts in enemy militia.

Yes, I know this is eve - I know players will find a mechanic and figure out a way to break and/exploit it almost immediately. Such is Us. But IMHO, allowing gunless frigates/low skilled alts to have such a massive effect on both the war zone and economy seems a bit much, even for Eve.

One suggestion: Would it please be possible to make plexes not close and reward any LP until all rats have been killed? IMHO you won't even have to change the spawn timers because with the current spawns, a real DPS crew (in real combat ships!) kills the last spawn just a minute or so before the timer runs out. It might make (legitimate) plex runs slightly faster (by a minute or so), but it will prevent many many more 'farming' runs from being finished in non-combat ships with non-combat alts. Right now it is reported that ALL plexes (at least on Gal/Cal and Amarr fronts) can be completed by some variation of a t1 frig that doesn't ever have to kill a single rat. This just seems wrong.

Perhaps there are other alternatives. That is the one most thrown around though I think.

Yes, people will probably find a loophole to any suggested fix, and there will still be farming and alt issues, etc. But this will at least curtail the current 'gold rush' (or perhaps another term would be 'outright theft') of the current LP system. Just IMHO.

I'm on an IPad so I'm going to post this before I lose it, but I will come back and add some thread links where people are discussing these issues, so you don't have to take my word for it. I'd link some killmails, but frankly, it's too cumbersome on this device.

Two more threads that came up overnight:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=139307&find=unread

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=139295&find=unread

I think most agree this is a problem. Unless they are just farmers themselves.

However players are putting too much emphasis on the fact that these ships are "gunless." Having pve ship with guns warp out is not any better for faction war. The mechanics need to make it so people are on the whole better off pvping instead of using pve ships.