Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Enough with the hate on the afk miners already.

The mineral prices are high enough as it stands

Uhm, no. It's not an area-of-effect weapon, it only affects the ship that activates the module. The 'sphere' would just be a visual effect. Much like the existing 'invulnerability field' module which doesn't actually create a field and also does not make you invulnerable

Both names may be a little misleading... I wouldn't mind if the name was something else.

Aaaaaaah. My mistake.

So its a personal, one ship force field, that has a set duration.

1-3 minutes of invulnerability?

Do you have *ANY* idea what that would do to warfare? Invulnerable bait ships are a bad thing.

You mean less defendable than they are now? are you nuts?

The whole new concept of the hulk is it's a fleet mobile.. it has little change to it. at all.. I don't know if you've ever tried to "defend" a hulk when it's attacked but there is little you can do to save it when it hit by a determined group. So you want to make it so a less determined group can gank more easily? How is this going to generate "better fights"? Isn't it really just going to generate easier and faster kills? No thanks.

Maybe. Keep in mind that my OP is quite old and was written long before the upcoming change was announced.

I think it is a very good idea with some tweaks.

Battleships would be the only ships able to mount a low slot item that extends the host-ships shields out to a distance determined by the operator. The module would have a "slider" that would determine range upon activation, and for every 2x the length of the ship, its shield strength would be reduced by half. Ships such as the Hyperion would be very good at covering large areas due to their large size, while ships like the scorpion could shield small areas much better due to its small size but strong shields.

The ship that activates the module remains immobile and loses all launched drones on activation, as well as not being able to shoot. Ships could take shelter inside the shield bubble, but all attacks that they take is absorbed by the host ship. The shield bubble functions much like a POS bubble, breaking all locks except on the host ship with a password set by the operator. This would make it so logistics can't hide inside the bubble and repair the host indefinitely. Ships outside the bubble could still repair the host, but they are open to being destroyed still.

Having it only be mountable on battleships would make it so things like Rorqs can't launch an invincible 100km 2 million EHP bubble the moment something appears on grid. Also, the battleship module has no time limit and only lasts until the hosts shield is destroyed. It uses very little capacitor to maintain, but all localized shield reps use 3x the capacitor.

The problem described is real and need some kind of solution. But I don't think it should be a module for the miners, it should be a module for the escort.

The escort is doing the protection so they should have the module that is needed to do the protection. As it is today the only module that is available that protects someone else are remote repers. What we need is an escort module. A module that transfer shield/resistance to one or more escorted ships (targets).
The escorting ship should target the ships that is being escorted/protected and activate it's module, this will give the escorter the same speed as the slowest of those it is escorting. The Escort module should only work on industrial/mining/transport/freighters ships, that is you can't escort a battleship.


So what exactly should the Ecorter module do to the escorted ship? Here is a starting point for discussion...
1. Increase shield resistance a lot! perhaps 50%?
2. Decrease signature radius by a lot , perhaps 10% of original Signature radius. (it will take a long time to lock the ship, and will take less damage from smartbombs)
3. increase shield by a lot, 2x?


since the module only works on locked targets, it means one escort can't protect an entire fleet of miners....also the more that is protected the fewer targets to be locked for attacking.

The more ships protecting a single target, the better its resistance, shield and signature radius will be, which is kind of logical...if you are protected by many you are much safer. perhaps there should be no stacking penalties?


And very important, there should be a really cool and "protective" looking visual effect for this module.


Apart from what is listed here there should be no limitations to what the escorter or the ecorted ship can do. For example the escorted ship could warp of whenever it wants (the counter would be to get point on those fast as usual), or in the case of miners they could continue to mine.

If escorting transports, then the question arise on how to handle jump gates? perhaps the module should autotarget the escorted ships after the jump? Or they are always targeted? or it just doesent work through jump gates....

You implied... no, wait, no, you clearly stated that there is a problem. There really isn't any problem at all. Mining is completely viable and perfectly fine, just like it always was, except it's even easier now with the ship buffs. There's no reason for such a module and certainly not for mining protection. If you feel insecure, fly a Skiff, it can survive long enough for help to arrive.


I just noticed that, but in that case this didn't need to be bumped, sorry for bumping it further, lol.

People keep talking about putting these on rorqs and orcas....but those ships can fit gang links. So immobile though it may be, you have a completely invulnerable fleet booster...?