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Developer Comments on Mining Crystals and Cargo Capacity?

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Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#241 - 2012-08-01 13:59:08 UTC
Jake Rivers wrote:
And ZERO change to crystal size/cargohold.

And there is our answer. Use industrials more.
Jake Rivers
New Planetary Order
#242 - 2012-08-01 14:03:40 UTC
CCP Goliath wrote:
Check it in tomorrow's build and see if you feel differently


I checked and I feel no different, as I see no difference.

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Rengerel en Distel
#243 - 2012-08-01 14:07:11 UTC
Jake Rivers wrote:
CCP Goliath wrote:
Check it in tomorrow's build and see if you feel differently


I checked and I feel no different, as I see no difference.

CCP troll best troll.

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
Dave Stark
#244 - 2012-08-01 14:07:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Dave Stark
Jake Rivers wrote:
And ZERO change to crystal size/cargohold.


what about yield modifiers on crystals/hulk?

edit: nope, no changes.
Dave Stark
#245 - 2012-08-01 14:12:04 UTC
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
Jake Rivers wrote:
CCP Goliath wrote:
Check it in tomorrow's build and see if you feel differently


I checked and I feel no different, as I see no difference.

CCP troll best troll.


so it would seem.
Andoria Thara
Fallen Avatars
#246 - 2012-08-01 14:16:09 UTC
that's hilarious
Jake Rivers
New Planetary Order
#247 - 2012-08-01 14:17:47 UTC
Actually the crystals have been busted since they changed the size. The bonus shows up when you check the info on the lasers while in fleet with boosts running, but actually results of ore going into the cargohold is what you would get with no crystal in the lasers.

Tested and still like this this morning.

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CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#248 - 2012-08-01 14:31:00 UTC
Welp. Let me check our static to make sure the changes were integrated What?

Jake Rivers - did you bug report this issue?

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Jake Rivers
New Planetary Order
#249 - 2012-08-01 14:37:24 UTC
Yeah I did a bug report.

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Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
#250 - 2012-08-01 14:37:36 UTC
Dave stark wrote:
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
Jake Rivers wrote:
CCP Goliath wrote:
Check it in tomorrow's build and see if you feel differently


I checked and I feel no different, as I see no difference.

CCP troll best troll.


so it would seem.

lol

"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro"
Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#251 - 2012-08-01 14:39:09 UTC
Jake Rivers wrote:
Yeah I did a bug report.


Number?

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Jake Rivers
New Planetary Order
#252 - 2012-08-01 14:39:42 UTC
I didn't report the bug a few days ago when I first encountered it as I assumed all those theory crafters posting all those new stats for the mining barges were actually testing out the new ships and fits (and thus would of encountered the bug and reported it), and not just plugging numbers into a spreadsheet.

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Jake Rivers
New Planetary Order
#253 - 2012-08-01 14:40:59 UTC
Salpun wrote:
Jake Rivers wrote:
Yeah I did a bug report.


Number?


And you are?

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Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#254 - 2012-08-01 14:43:45 UTC
Jake Rivers wrote:
Salpun wrote:
Jake Rivers wrote:
Yeah I did a bug report.


Number?


And you are?

If you post the number the devs can defect it them selves without searching thru the BR data base. If you do not push BR they do not get proccessed as fast.

Sisi bug report warrier checking in.

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See you around the universe.
Jake Rivers
New Planetary Order
#255 - 2012-08-01 14:45:09 UTC
Your petition has been submitted, the petition tracking id is 2954090.

If it helps, sure, not sure if I did the bug report right though. I have never encountered an obvious bug before.

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Jake Rivers
New Planetary Order
#256 - 2012-08-01 14:46:16 UTC
But really, just log into sisi, fit a hulk with t2 laser and a t2 crystal, mine a rock that matchs the crystal for one cycle and compare the results with the laser info.

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Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#257 - 2012-08-01 14:47:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Salpun
Jake Rivers wrote:
Your petition has been submitted, the petition tracking id is 2954090.

If it helps, sure, not sure if I did the bug report right though. I have never encountered an obvious bug before.

If you are on Sisi I will walk you thru it. First step is hit F12 and open the in game bug reporting tool. You did a petition not a bug report.

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See you around the universe.
Upde
Upde Harris Industries
#258 - 2012-08-01 14:53:11 UTC
Andoria Thara wrote:
Upde wrote:
Milage on this varies of course and for larger ops where the Orca is supporting multiple ships it might be more difficuly, but its not to the point where it needs to be fixed by devs making changes ?


Sadly, the squeaky wheel usually gets most of the grease. We've already seen CCP change the stats of the barges on SiSi multiple times over the past few days, knee jerk reactions.


were any fo these changes actually made based on imperical data provided by people testing the new barge set ups on SiSi or was it all based on theorycraft tears from the forums ?

If its the later then CCP are failing. In all honesty I didn;t think there was much wrong with the barges as they are now, what was wrong was the ability of so many people to fail fit and then wonder why they got alpha'd back to the stoneage.

The pricniple for hulk / barge fitting is exactly the same as any other ship. you fir for Tank or you Fit for Gank i.e in this case fir for yield (gank) or tank. If someone flying a cruiser / BC fits for full gank and gets assploded they deal with it because they made that choice. It should be the same for miners no ? I have always run with a compormise of tank and yield on my hulks because hey.......... EvE is a dark harsh place, so I made a choice to look after my tools. I have had gank attempts made on me which have failed simply because I was prepared.

I am a bit concerned that CCP are making chnages to quell lots of peoples tears, but these people will not have learned anything and when the gankers find a way to continue their sport we will end up with brages having the same EHP as dreds so they can simply survive any kind of hisec attack ?? surely thats not good for the game ???????????
Jagoff Haverford
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#259 - 2012-08-01 14:55:22 UTC
CCP Goliath wrote:
Check it in tomorrow's build and see if you feel differently
Jake Rivers wrote:
And ZERO change to crystal size/cargohold.
Uhm, Golaith? How can I put this delicately? If nothing has changed, why on earth would any of us -- on either side of the argument -- feel any differently?
Jake Rivers
New Planetary Order
#260 - 2012-08-01 14:56:13 UTC
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