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Help to choose a side in fw.
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Banker Rotshild
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-08-01 08:13:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Banker Rotshild
I am new to fw. Was playing about a week or so with an alt in caldari militia. Now i want to enter fw with my main, but can not choose the side. Most of i didnt like in caldari is the prices in lp store. As i counted the course of lp to isk was about 0.5 to 1. Main for me is of course pvp but i want to supply my main with ships from finishing fw plexes or lvl 4 fw missions, With such course it is impossible.

So help me please to choose the side considering on next facts:

  • Lp store should give at least 1 to 1 lp to isk course. (Does lp prices changes considering on how militia is wining or loosing? read on database sites that caldary navi raven should cost 250k lp but he actually costs 1m.)


  • easy plexing (like in caldary militia) - i heard that it is hard in gallente militia cause caldari npc use jamm a lot and why amarr is so unpopular? Could i speed tank minmatar npc while being in amarr militia?


  • plenty of pvp



Would be very grateful for help and answering my questions.


P.S. Also looking for some fw corporations with russian speakers....
Dynast
Room for Improvement
Good Sax
#2 - 2012-08-01 10:38:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Dynast
PvP is easy to find in any of the militias.

LP store prices are **** 99% of the time for all militias except minmatar, and theirs will probably be **** 99% of the time if they get rolled back by nullbear alliance farmers. At least on the Caldari and Gallente front, militia LPs are cashed out in bursts, FW corps will coordinate a 'dump' every 2-4 weeks in which everyone pitches in to push their warzone control to level 4 or 5 temporarily, during which the LP payouts are great.

CCP removed all the electronic warfare effects from FW plexes, so there isn't that big a difference anymore. Main difference is that Gallente and Amarr militias face rats that shoot missiles, so they can't be 100% speedtanked. You can still fully tank all plexes in a plex-fit t1 frig though.

Amarr militia is unpopular for a number of reasons. The Minmatar stole the march on them and took a huge lead in system ownership before the last big FW patch, which snowballed into a deluge of nullbear alts farming minmatar LP which have made it difficult (impossible?) for Amarr to get back on their feet and get any sort of warzone control. The lower number of FW systems in Amarr/Minmatar FW space, and the more piped layout, make for a different 'feel' in terms of fighting. And some of the dominant Amarr FW corps are on the skeezy side, doing the 'bro pact' thing with Gallente FW corps for neutral repping purposes, running minmatar militia alts to farm the system they 'own', and generally making asses of themselves to the point where nobody wants to have to listen to them.
Banker Rotshild
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-08-01 10:56:40 UTC
Thanks very much for answers. But why minmatar militia is popular? As i see amarr control only few systems, so where minmatars farm lp when there is no place??? Or they all just make lvl 4 missions in those 3-4 systems which amarr controls?
Yuri Intaki
Nasranite Watch
#4 - 2012-08-01 11:12:29 UTC
Banker Rotshild wrote:
Thanks very much for answers. But why minmatar militia is popular? As i see amarr control only few systems, so where minmatars farm lp when there is no place??? Or they all just make lvl 4 missions in those 3-4 systems which amarr controls?


They can farm in Caldari space. Of course we recently returned the favor to give Nulli a bit of a hand. For many minmatar, it seems totally unfair that we have ton of alts with stabbed/no-aggro rats farming their space while they are happy to do the same for us.

I for one thank our minmatar overlords for nearly 20 million loyalty points farmed in past few days (these of course dont show up on statistics since it's "wrong militia" farming wrong plexes)
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#5 - 2012-08-01 11:13:25 UTC
Join Caldari, Caldari has enough masses to ensure that decent tier for lp shop can be achieved when needed.
Banker Rotshild
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-08-01 11:36:00 UTC
Thanks fro answer) Decided to go caldari. Jita wouldnt be closed in such situation))))
sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade
Ghost Legion.
#7 - 2012-08-01 14:16:44 UTC
Banker Rotshild wrote:
Thanks fro answer) Decided to go caldari. Jita wouldnt be closed in such situation))))


Jita is never closed, even to a -10 Gal pilot.

In fact fastest way to move a a Charon from Jita to Amarr is to use a pilot with -5.1 Faction standing to Caldari and Amarr.

Don't ask about Italics, just tilt your head.
Schalac
Apocalypse Reign
#8 - 2012-08-01 15:05:37 UTC
sYnc Vir wrote:
Banker Rotshild wrote:
Thanks fro answer) Decided to go caldari. Jita wouldnt be closed in such situation))))


Jita is never closed, even to a -10 Gal pilot.

In fact fastest way to move a a Charon from Jita to Amarr is to use a pilot with -5.1 Faction standing to Caldari and Amarr.

Could of swore that the police scram you.

SCHALAC HAS SPOKEN!! http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schalac
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#9 - 2012-08-01 15:11:11 UTC
Confirming that Jita is the most important system in EVE, and no player can survive without being able to physically access it.

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#10 - 2012-08-01 16:00:53 UTC
Put alt in Jita and buy stuff. Ship wherever you want it to go using Red Frog (cheap, 10 mil max) for high sec, and then Black Frog (usually 50+ mil) to get stuff to low sec.

Use your time not having to travel to market hub to make that isk back/have fun with pew.
sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade
Ghost Legion.
#11 - 2012-08-01 19:02:49 UTC
Schalac wrote:
sYnc Vir wrote:
Banker Rotshild wrote:
Thanks fro answer) Decided to go caldari. Jita wouldnt be closed in such situation))))


Jita is never closed, even to a -10 Gal pilot.

In fact fastest way to move a a Charon from Jita to Amarr is to use a pilot with -5.1 Faction standing to Caldari and Amarr.

Could of swore that the police scram you.


The learn which NPCs spawn.

-5.1 Faction standing brings Navy Not Police. The four spawns web you. and away you go. They also do this before the police will point ya which is why -10 Abaddons with duel plates can fly around high sec.

Don't ask about Italics, just tilt your head.
Hidden Snake
Inglorious-Basterds
#12 - 2012-08-02 07:19:27 UTC
Irony is strong with many of u, but I have been in some low/null corpses for which ability to access Jita was crucial ... so we all have hauling alts :)
Garan Nardieu
Super Serious Fight Club
#13 - 2012-08-02 11:17:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Garan Nardieu
Dynast wrote:
You can still fully tank all plexes in a plex-fit t1 frig though.


Good luck tanking caldari major strongholds in a t1 ship (fully t2 pve fitted as well). I did manage to do facility/instalations with occasional overheat What?.
Atm plexes are abosoulutely imbalanced, providing both minis and caldaris an upper hand as gal (and prolly amarr, wouldn't really know) plexes can actually be done in t1, t1 fitted frigs with 1 day alts. Really hope they fix the whole mess plexing is atm some time soon.
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#14 - 2012-08-02 11:22:41 UTC
Garan Nardieu wrote:
Dynast wrote:
You can still fully tank all plexes in a plex-fit t1 frig though.


Good luck tanking caldari major strongholds in a t1 ship (fully t2 fitted as well). I did manage to do facility/instalations with occasional overheat What?.
Atm plexes are abosoulutely imbalanced, providing both minis and caldaris an upper hand as gal (and prolly amarr, wouldn't really know) plexes can actually be done in t1, t1 fitted frigs with 1 day alts. Really hope they fix the whole mess plexing is atm some time soon.


every minmatar plex can be tanked with t1 frig, so no advantage there.

Also every FW plex can be taken with empty t1 frig if you know what to do.
Garan Nardieu
Super Serious Fight Club
#15 - 2012-08-02 12:39:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Garan Nardieu
Bad Messenger wrote:

every minmatar plex can be tanked with t1 frig, so no advantage there.
Also every FW plex can be taken with empty t1 frig if you know what to do.


Ok, so you're saying anyone can make a day old alt and do any plex in a t1 frigate in any faction's plex?*
You know how to do it with day old alt in an empty frig as well? Guess I really have to learn a lot more in this game Roll


*Cuz that's what caldari/amarr can do to gallente.