EVE General Discussion

The truth always eventually comes out in these threads. This isn't about the new players at all, it's the players who train FOTM. And when CCP makes changes that these players don't agree with, their skills become 'wasted' and they want them transferred over to the next FOTM skill set.

The point reduction is a masked piece offering as well. A player can easily train up several x2 skills in a fraction of the time it would take to train up and x8, and then convert them over essentially allowing them to train faster.

This would also break the character bazaar as well. People won't get as much for their specifically trained characters as players can just grab a cheaper character with other skills and retrain them in a matter of minutes.

Umm - you are aware that a x2 only takes 1/4 of the SP a x8 takes?

SP/hour are the same, so redistributing SP between them wouldn't change anything.

Anyway, reditributing skills is a terrible idea for many other reasons, but i don't feel urged to repeat them as most have been mentioned and I'm quite certain CCP wont allow it.

If anything, training skills backward without any benefit would be okay.

So basically, it takes the same time to untrain a skill level as it took to train it - no benefit or reimbursement.

I'd actually do that with some skills just for a cleaner skillsheet.

It's a pretty cheap way to remap skills. Much better than some 50% discount scheme.

Of course the hierarchy should be maintained, but I'd definitely get rid of e.g. the annoying 250 SP in Industry just to get rid of that category.

On one character, I trained all kinds of skills to V during a period of decreased activity without spending much thought on it, so afterburners V got inthere, which is a disadvantage when e.g. flying dual prop ships - doesn't make the character useless, but I'd untrain it if given the possibility.

I was lazy, it was my own fault, so I deal with it, but spending a couple of days to just get rid of it would be nice.

Much agreement... PVP toons have no need for Mining II in their skill sheet.
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sell a pirate pvp char for a pvp char why would i do that? that statment above was as an example of common skills people train in the start of a char then never use again...

but like i have said 3 times now None of my chars have ay problems it was more a discustion of a way to help some players stay in game when they get bored off the way they have been playing. with out going aww ok i spent x amount of time being a Miner now i need to start fresh to move over into pvp to say fly a BS its going to take me 2-3month or what ever they could trasnfre said learned sp to that lie. but no mater


no more replys are needed the public have said its a bad idea and i accept that. :)

i jsut want this game to keep its numbers and mabe grow a little more then it is atm as its awsome played o my main account since 2006 and love it

As others have said, if it's not abused.

I really like the idea in general. Obvious constraints would be an ISK cost, and an appropriate cooldown.

But as you can see from some of the responses, this is a hot button item for a lot of players who think it will ruin the sandbox by providing a pathway to compensate for your undesireable choices.

I look at differently: it's all about flexibility. I made so many bad choice on my first toon. Over time, I've ironed them out. But what about intentional choices that were not simply errors? This is where the flexibility to change skill sets would be really cool. You could enjoy new aspects of the game that would be otherwise unattainable in any kind of a reasonable time frame. Of course, over time, you will train through so many different skills that you will be inherently flexible and baddazz.

And if I can expand this topic a little, I have always thought that we should be able to do neural remaps every month. Again, for the felxibility. RIght now, I have a training plan set up for Int/Mem on my main. It is over one year long. It would be much more useful and effcicient to train for SOME Int/Mem skills now, back to Perc/WIll in a month+, then Perc/Char for a month+ after that. If everyone can do remaps every month, then we have flexibility for all with nobody at an advantage.

Oh well. Fun to talk about, but none of this will ever happen.

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Are you sure of this number ?
Is 2700 sp/hour the maximum sp you can get per hour with +5 mplants and perfect attribute mapping?