Player Features and Ideas Discussion

This is a terrible suggestion. You want positive sec status you can work for that ****.

what's the point of security status if rich players can pay to change it whenever they wish?

Isk is very easy to come buy (pun intended).

I don't mind offering less "boring" means to increase your sec status up, but straight isk for sec status is NOT the way to go, IMO.

A severe negative sec status exists to add consequence for performing "criminal" actions. By moving that to a straight isk cost, you are essentially removing a significant portion of the consequences.

For example: Imagine you're a professional highsec freighter ganker. You and your buddies get 10 Tornado's and 2 shot loaded freighters. If you could count your sec status losses as just a blatant part of the isk formula, suddenly you can suicide gank forever, just as long as your rewards cover the cost of security status losses too. This could easily be applied to ganking exhumers too....

I'm personally think security status should evolve to become more engaging. Not some trivial expense you pay off with our profits!!!

Think along the lines that encourage player enforcement and activities to reward and/or punish criminals.
Ideas like some non-exploitable mechanic where you gain sec status by shooting other players with low sec status.
Perhaps lesser NPC penalties, where pirates can fly stuff in highsec space (perhaps chased by faction police instead of concord), yet couple it with harsher Player-oriented penalties.... Perhaps the faction police use a new web-EWAR that increases all ships align times to make them easier to tackle (rather than insta-warps them). Imagine how highsec might change if pod align times were increased to 3ish seconds instead of instant...

I'd say from your sig that the best thing to do with your opinions is ignore them.

I vote No. If you are not willing to do the time, do not do the crime.

I think buying sec status for isk is an good idea... but with some restrictions you wont be able to buy it above -2.0... you can only do it once every 3 months (or month) and the price would have to be about 500mil (not a plex) to do so

Then sec status could be one of those isk sinks people choose themselves to use if they want.

Also, gankers can come to high sec and gank your hulks with cheap thrashers in large numbers regardless of our sec status, so it has nothing to do with that at all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqc2gj_G2zY here is a video of me and my corp doing just that (we are all -10 to -5, which proves my point, sec status is no hindrance)

Money is only time if everyone is maximizing profit at all times. They aren't. Low sec doesn't profit maximize, and PVP features far too much risk and is far less consistant than required for profit maximization.

Bascially IF YOU GRIND then time and money is the same thing. But the saying "Time is money" simply points out that time is a necessary resource required for acquiring revenue and that time wasted is time that could have been spent making money.


The fact of the matter is that we are against not because we don't want more was to change security status. We just want the money to come from doing something specific to earn it, as opposed to being lootd from the cargoholds of ganked freighters. When you fund something that tells people "I'm not a pirate, honest" with piracy, then it defeats the purpose and nature of the thing.

I have not read all of the posts in this thread but i do like your suggestion only thing i dissagree with is the price.

Here is why i dissagree:

* Gaining faction and npc standings with datacore agents (i.e. Pirate Tags) will cost you from 10m - 1.5b per one mission
and in total it can come out to a stupid amount of isk to get it all the way high.
* Having this so convinient and easy to use would make High Sec ganking unholy easy.


Here is my proposition:

Add a Concord agent that can fix your security status however for the following price:

• You can fix your standing only once every 60 days
• Like with Insurance window you can pick a packet how much you want to fix your security status:
• -10.0 to - 9.0 == 50m or pirate tags of equal value
• -9.0 to -8.0 == 100m
• -8.0 to -7.0 == 150m
• -7.0 to -6.0 == 200m
[*] so basically 50 per 1.0 sec gain. So if you want to go from -10.0 to -1.0 where you can again enter 1.0 you have to pay: 500m [*] Or have like a slider and rounded numbers for sec.

This way you have an alternative option that can be there for those who need it but it cannot be abused and it should be somewhat expansive so its not worth it for suicide gankers.