Warfare & Tactics

It will continue as it always has, the good old see-saw. The only difference now is that we aren't masters of where we fight/live. It's the faceless alt army that dictates where we fight now.

Paying characters to defensive plex does not pvp create. The problem is not that the focus is on offensive plexing. Defensive plexing requires no guns either! The problem is that plexing always has been most efficiently done in pve ships and avoiding pvp. CCP didn't do anything to change this. They just added consequences.

To be fair to ccp and hans, the players were crying for "consequences" and glossed over the fact that plexing is really a pve game. Lots of people said if there are consequences then we will pvp for plexes. Only a few people realized that adding consequences to a pve system will just create farmville and not really improve things. But we were in the, often despised, minority.

I knew it wouldn't be long before the Amarr poked their little noses out from behind Nulli's skirt and blew a raspberry.

And so?

If the consensus is that T5 will keep flipping back and forth, how about instead of complaining instead we keep really really quiet and get really really space rich. And then after like a year or so we can have this massive space battle with huge spaceships and **** and I'll be all like akakakakakak and you'll be all like pew pew pew. Gonna be awesome.

IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW.

*whistles*

First off - I don't think Hans had any part in what we see now, didn't he join the CSM after all these design decisions were pretty much made?

And secondly - CCP has made FW SO DAMN GOOD. Could it be better? Sure. Have they made HUGE improvments? YES!

I'm Minmatar militia, and yes Nulli are rolling our occupancy, but there is a FANTASTIC amount of pvp to be had. There's people in frigates everywhere - CCP finally made a version of FW that gave nullsec alliances a reason to leave their huge blobs and go into size restricted plexes. Which means a HUGE population boost for FW, and TONS of fights to be had.

I remember pre-inferno: Caldari militia had all but given up, there was nothing to shoot at in lowsec but neutrals here and there. The same few bittervets had been shooting the same few bittervets for years.

Before inferno came out - I had cancelled both of my accounts and one had already expired. I grudgingly logged in post inferno to find ORANGE, ORANGE EVERYWHERE!

FW is so much better now because they gave incentives for people to come to militia. I mean seriously, there's a *whole nullsec alliance* of about 1800 members rolling around doing their best to take occupancy, and that means a dispersion of small ship power.

Living a few jumps from an 1800 member FW alliance interested in plexing is HEAVEN. And it's because of the incentives!

This would mean that pvp'ers in the faction with the least amount of plex farmers will never be able to earn isk for pvp. Number of plexers will directly relate to number of systems held and the losing side will never be able to accrue enough systems for decent payout. Auto flipping would be the worst idea and would negate one of the only two balancing effects in the current mechanics, the ability to stack up systems (the other being no lp for defensive plexing).

Your system would go further down the road to defeating a faction, something that should not be desirable since it will result in member churning and a pure alt farm with no realistic opposition.

So far, I have run into one 4v1 as I capped a plex and bugged out. 1 incursus pilot that smack talked my rifter and warped out of a plex/system. More pirates than I have previously encountered peeking in on plexes. All this within 3-4 jumps of our home system which I normally don't see any Orange.

I don't have a lot of free time to play, so YMMV. Looking at our alliance KB; the majority of the t1 frigs killed have been stacked up on speed/shield mods sans guns. vov.

Xui and chatgris are likely both correct in that Nulli brings equal parts farm and pew depending on specific members' dispositions.