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Viktor Vigilante
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-07-31 03:49:59 UTC
Hey all. I started playing EVE a couple days ago and cannot believe I have missed out on this game for so long. Anyway, My ultimate goal is to become a successful pirate and engage in some pvp. More specifically, tackling is an area that I initially plan to focus on. Below is a character plan I came up with and any feedback or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Ship: Rifter

High Slots: 150mm Light AutoCannon II x3
Small Nosferatu II

Medium Slots: 1 mn Afterburner II
Stasis Webifier II
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

Low Slots: Small Armor Repairer II
Damage Control II
200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I

Rig Slots: Small Projectile Ambit Extension I
Small Projectile Ambit Extension I
Small Projectile Collision Accelerator I

Skill Plan:

Small Projectile Turret I
Small Projectile Turret II
Small Projectile Turret III
Small Projectile Turret IV
Motion Prediction III
Small Projectile Turret V
Small Autocannon Specialization I
Energy Emission Systems I
Energy Emission Systems II
Energy Emission Systems III
Afterburner III
Afterburner IV
Propulsion Jamming III
Propulsion Jamming IV
Hull Upgrades I
Hull Upgrades II
Hull Upgrades III
Hull Upgrades IV
Jury Rigging I
Jury Rigging II
Jury Rigging III
Projectile Weapon Rigging I
Energy Systems Operation I
Energy Systems Operation II
Energy Systems Operation III
Energy Management I
Energy Management II
Energy Management III
Energy Grid Upgrades I
Energy Grid Upgrades II
Electronics Upgrades I
Long Range Targeting I
Long Range Targeting II
Targeting I
Targeting II
Targeting III
Targeting IV
Signature Analysis I
Signature Analysis II
Signature Analysis III
Evasive Maneuvering I
Evasive Maneuvering II
Warp Drive Operation I
Warp Drive Operation II
Shield Management III
Rapid Firing I
Rapid Firing II
Sharpshooter I
Gunnery IV
Trajectory Analysis I
Trajectory Analysis II

16d 15h 56m to complete this plan
Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#2 - 2012-07-31 04:17:16 UTC
Drop targeting IV (hell, even 3 is nonessential for a Rifter) and get those gunnery support skills up higher (Rapid firing, etc).
Viktor Vigilante
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-07-31 04:26:57 UTC
Ok, yeah that makes sense i'll tweak it a bit thx man
Ione Hawke
Darkness Industries
#4 - 2012-07-31 09:57:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Ione Hawke
As a rule of thumb I would train all new skills to level 3 minimum instead of level 1, as the first 3 levels are a short train and give relative large benefit.

You especially may wanna consider training Projectile Weapon Rigging I to 3 - it has a 'nasty' grid penalty and as you are a new player it will be difficult enough to fit your ships. Also get MWD quickly, its fairly essential when tackling stuff, otherwise you are just too slow. Finally, energy neuts are considered more effective as vampires as vampires only work when your cap is lower then your targets cap.

Also, train cybernetics and get the best implants you can affort. Only plugin those two attributes you actively train.
Ione Hawke
Darkness Industries
#5 - 2012-07-31 10:00:02 UTC
Also, did you EFT the fit, I kinda doubt you can fit 3 weapon rigs to a rifter.
Eron Relentless
STARS of BABYLON ALLIANCE
#6 - 2012-07-31 10:30:28 UTC
As a Rifter tackle, you rely heavily on your speed.

You should consider looking more into navigation, spaceship command (at least 4) and Evasive Maneuvering. High speed maneuvering will help you run MWD longer.
Sarik Olecar
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-07-31 13:00:35 UTC
Ione Hawke wrote:
Also, did you EFT the fit, I kinda doubt you can fit 3 weapon rigs to a rifter.


It'll fit: Ambit Ext Cost 100 each, Collision Acc Cost 200.

As for tackling, I'd suggest checking out the soon to be buffed Slasher. I think I heard they wanted to turn them into some kind of T1 mini interceptor for 1.2

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Dradius Calvantia
Lip Shords
#8 - 2012-07-31 18:50:54 UTC
Yes, the Slasher and the Atron are both going to be fairly good after the next patch. And more to the point, they will be better at tackling. That Rifter fit you have is great, but it is meant for 1v1 with other frigs. If you want to tackle larger targets for a gang, I recommend an MWD fit Slasher or Atron.
Sugar Kyle
Middle Ground
#9 - 2012-07-31 19:32:19 UTC
Pirate? Big smile

Guns, nav, tank, and some way to make isk.

Also, if you are going to come to low sec to meet/live/learn with those of us who reside here look at cruisers. Nwed tank for gate/station gun blappage.

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Viktor Vigilante
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-07-31 19:46:09 UTC
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As a rule of thumb I would train all new skills to level 3 minimum instead of level 1, as the first 3 levels are a short train and give relative large benefit.

You especially may wanna consider training Projectile Weapon Rigging I to 3 - it has a 'nasty' grid penalty and as you are a new player it will be difficult enough to fit your ships. Also get MWD quickly, its fairly essential when tackling stuff, otherwise you are just too slow. Finally, energy neuts are considered more effective as vampires as vampires only work when your cap is lower then your targets cap.

Also, train cybernetics and get the best implants you can affort. Only plugin those two attributes you actively train.


Awesome, thank you Ione I'll make sure to add those towards the top. I have been trainin the new skills to 3 first, it did seem to make a little more sense.

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As a Rifter tackle, you rely heavily on your speed.

You should consider looking more into navigation, spaceship command (at least 4) and Evasive Maneuvering. High speed maneuvering will help you run MWD longer


Ok, i'll add those to the list thx for the feedback Eron

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As for tackling, I'd suggest checking out the soon to be buffed Slasher. I think I heard they wanted to turn them into some kind of T1 mini interceptor for 1.2


Quote:
Yes, the Slasher and the Atron are both going to be fairly good after the next patch. And more to the point, they will be better at tackling. That Rifter fit you have is great, but it is meant for 1v1 with other frigs. If you want to tackle larger targets for a gang, I recommend an MWD fit Slasher or Atron.


Interesting, I'll def check out those ships. I'm open to anythin as I havn't dove too deep into my plan yet. 1v1 would be fun at times, but essentially I do wanna roll with a gang.

Viktor Vigilante
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-07-31 19:48:55 UTC
Quote:
Pirate? Big smile

Guns, nav, tank, and some way to make isk.

Also, if you are going to come to low sec to meet/live/learn with those of us who reside here look at cruisers. Nwed tank for gate/station gun blappage.


haha, simple I like it. I'll check the cruisers out as well, about to login here in a min. thx sugar kyle.
Lyric Lahnder
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-08-01 14:48:48 UTC
If you want a tackle y rifter I would actually sugest a shield fit.
Only because a tackler is usually the fastest ship on the field, to catch foes and flee from them when need be try this

This fit requires a 1% pg implant

3 x 125mm II autocannon
1 x Rocket launcher II

1 x Medium shield Extender II
1 x Warp disruptor II
1 x Limited Microwarp drive 1mn

1 x Damage control
1 x Overdrive injector system II
1 x nanofiber internal structure II

1 x Anti em screen reinforcer
2 x small polycarbon engine housing

With your Microwarpdrive on you can go 3985 m/s with max skill and a whopping 5642 m/s overloaded!
Your nearing interceptor speeds at this point with slightly more hp at that point. If your training to be a tackler you should be training toward getting into Interceptors and assault ships.

A pirate you say? You know piracy and mercenary work share a lot of parallels at times. Ever considered getting paid for your trouble? If you apply to noir Academy we can teach you alot of the pvp skills your seeking to learn. If you graduate into Noir you would be paid for good performance on contract. I wont lie, piracy is pretty tough work these days and like fishing you only eat if you catch something and survive.

Noir. and Noir Academy are recruiting apply at www.noirmercs.com I Noir Academy: 60 days old must be able to fly at least one tech II frigate. I Noir. Recruits: 4:1 k/d ratio and can fly tech II cruisers.