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New dev blog: Well Fit and Well Loaded...

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Tanaka Aiko
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#101 - 2012-07-31 17:13:53 UTC
Kazanir wrote:
CCP Punkturis wrote:
hi :3


Hi :3

I have a suggestion:

Add the Rigs category to the list of things that can be saved to a fit as cargo rather than as a fitted module. This would enable people to save rigs to a fit and automatically "include" them in an assembled ship without committing those rigs by actually fitting them.

This way a ship can be assembled for sale (via contracts) or for sitting in a corp hangar, but could later be repackaged without loss if it never actually got sold or used.

This should be a really easy change since Rigs is a whole item category like the Ammo/Charges category, not hard like the Liquid Ozone change you mentioned looking at.

Please do this, including rigs as cargo is The Best Way.

if it was possible to add the modules you didn't had skills for on the cargo also it would be nice :)
(but that must be harder)
Hakaru Ishiwara
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#102 - 2012-07-31 17:16:26 UTC
CCP Punkturis wrote:
Daneel Trevize wrote:
FWIW, the customers are right, Rigs were once fitted with fits.

See complaints at the introduction of the feature, and the stealth removal:
http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1206798
http://www.eve-search.com/thread/1453526-0/page/1

Any word if gun groups are also saved? (TBH I forget if they are currently on TQ or Sisi Oops)


he said within the last year and I said I was pretty sure that wasn't right because people had been asking for it for over a year

as you can see from your link it's from 2009 Blink

but does it really matter? I don't see the point in arguing about this..

groupings are not saved no
Everybody is correct. This functionality is not available now. This functionality was instituted 3+ years ago and I was incorrect to state a year ago. I should have said w/in the past two years.

Thanks for bringing this functionality back to the EVE client.

+++++++ I have never shed a tear for a fellow EVE player until now. Mark “Seleene” Heard's Blog Honoring Sean "Vile Rat" Smith.

Freezehunter
#103 - 2012-07-31 17:21:10 UTC
Any word on when you are removing the absolutely annoying 100 Saved fittings limit?

I hit that AGES ago and I have to delete a fitting every time I have a new one to add to my database, it is ANNOYING.

I don't really care if it's not saved server side, just let me save as many fittings as I want to locally.

Inappropriate signature, CCP Phantom.

CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
#104 - 2012-07-31 17:28:46 UTC
Freezehunter wrote:
Any word on when you are removing the absolutely annoying 100 Saved fittings limit?

I hit that AGES ago and I have to delete a fitting every time I have a new one to add to my database, it is ANNOYING.

I don't really care if it's not saved server side, just let me save as many fittings as I want to locally.



I will ask Tuxford about this when he gets back from vacation. No promises though Big smile

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Alundil
Rolled Out
#105 - 2012-07-31 17:30:14 UTC
Very nice changes. I think that this is going to be a huge benefit to new and old players alike.

GJ

I'm right behind you

Hakaru Ishiwara
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#106 - 2012-07-31 17:31:43 UTC
Freezehunter wrote:
Any word on when you are removing the absolutely annoying 100 Saved fittings limit?

I hit that AGES ago and I have to delete a fitting every time I have a new one to add to my database, it is ANNOYING.

I don't really care if it's not saved server side, just let me save as many fittings as I want to locally.
Count yourself lucky that we aren't back at the 50-fitting level when CCP first imposed the fitting limitations. Going from unlimited and locally saved fittings to a hard limit of 50 was a terrible way to treat customers. I do not recall when CCP increased the limit to 100, but by that point, I had totally given up asking for redress.

+++++++ I have never shed a tear for a fellow EVE player until now. Mark “Seleene” Heard's Blog Honoring Sean "Vile Rat" Smith.

Kerien Shien
Unknown Crusade
#107 - 2012-07-31 17:35:27 UTC
Now you can also drag your faforite builds into the market quickbar to quicly buy your stuffs..

Would be REALLY awesome if in the list you could have the shiptype in the fit as well into the quick bar...

also, maybe share the fits between all the characters in the account as well? Some people have to use alts for buying stuff from jita and that would be realy handy.. ((can you send mails with a link to fitting? havent tried..))
CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
#108 - 2012-07-31 17:38:15 UTC
Kerien Shien wrote:
((can you send mails with a link to fitting? havent tried..))


yes you can Big smile

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Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#109 - 2012-07-31 17:38:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Salpun
Kerien Shien wrote:
Now you can also drag your faforite builds into the market quickbar to quicly buy your stuffs..

Would be REALLY awesome if in the list you could have the shiptype in the fit as well into the quick bar...

also, maybe share the fits between all the characters in the account as well? Some people have to use alts for buying stuff from jita and that would be realy handy.. ((can you send mails with a link to fitting? havent tried..))

Testing: Confirmed
and beat by the best Dev P

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See you around the universe.

Alundil
Rolled Out
#110 - 2012-07-31 17:39:43 UTC
Any chance that POS dwellers (wormholes, etc) will be getting some "Fitting luv"?

1. It would be a very, very nice improvement if it were possible to use the fitting functionality from a SMA/CHA at a POS. For those of us living in WHs rehsipping to some other fitting is click and drag click and drag. It would be great if the Fitting Service was able to utilized fittings stored in in the currently opened CHA tab

ie: Open SMA --> Board Ship of choice --> Open CHA --> Select desired tab --> ALT+F and then remove/fit fittings through Fitting Manager using the active ship and the active CHA tab.

2. I know that T3 (Tech not Tier) Strat Cruiser are, at times, a PITA for wormhole dwellers because the subsystems cannot be altered at a POS. I don't know the reasons why this is the case (whether it is "lore" or backend tech) but being able to do this would be phenomenal. Almost guaranteed to increase the number of splosions in and around w-space. That's a good thing no?

3. Repackaging at POS - is this on the roadmap (plzsayyes) for future implementation? Being able to repackage modules and hulls that won't be used but periodically would be excellent. As would the side benefit of shipping in and out of wh.

Thank you. Really been enjoying all the work and improvements that CCP has made post-Incarna. I mean that in various ways too.

I'm right behind you

St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#111 - 2012-07-31 17:42:29 UTC
Is this awesome?

[ ] Yes
[ ] **** Yes

P.S. Don't forget Tracking Computer and Sensor Booster scripts, and Probe Launcher's Scanner Probes
Freezehunter
#112 - 2012-07-31 17:43:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Freezehunter
CCP Punkturis wrote:
Freezehunter wrote:
Any word on when you are removing the absolutely annoying 100 Saved fittings limit?

I hit that AGES ago and I have to delete a fitting every time I have a new one to add to my database, it is ANNOYING.

I don't really care if it's not saved server side, just let me save as many fittings as I want to locally.



I will ask Tuxford about this when he gets back from vacation. No promises though Big smile


Thank you Punkturis! <3

Inappropriate signature, CCP Phantom.

CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
#113 - 2012-07-31 17:45:23 UTC
St Mio wrote:
Is this awesome?

[ ] Yes
[ ] **** Yes

P.S. Don't forget Tracking Computer and Sensor Booster scripts, and Probe Launcher's Scanner Probes


maybe you should try all those out on Sisi Cool

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PinkKnife
The Cuddlefish
Ethereal Dawn
#114 - 2012-07-31 18:09:14 UTC
Jesus Punkturis, going to be blowing up some POS towers with that catalyst fit? Sooo much ammo lol

Love the changes though.

As some others have said, and I'll likely repost into the F&I discussion section, is it possible to get information on said fit in a more information window? Much like how the current fitting window has the expansion arrow that shows more stats, bringing that onto a saved fit that might show relevant information with your skills and such would be downright ******* awesome.

As a second idea to that, having a market section that shows the current price of the modules in your region/total price of the fit in your region and the option to buy all the modules on said fit, with a single click (or two..) would save people a lot of time and hassle. I understand you can save it to the quick bar and get the items that way, but you still have to click each module, find the right price, right place, click buy now, confirm, repeat for EVERY module type.

I'm lazy, and if I think the price is reasonable, why not just hit buy now and have it do it for me? All ready to go.

More time pew'ing, less time clicking and assembling things to pew.
M Thomas
Adhocracy Incorporated
Adhocracy
#115 - 2012-07-31 18:10:33 UTC
If I got on sisi and attempted to change a subsystem at a ship maintenance array would it work?
Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#116 - 2012-07-31 18:12:12 UTC
M Thomas wrote:
If I got on sisi and attempted to change a subsystem at a ship maintenance array would it work?

No one has even hinted at that being added this patch so I would say no. Leave that to the pos redesign in a couple months. There is more important things to do.

If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide

See you around the universe.

CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
#117 - 2012-07-31 18:17:36 UTC
PinkKnife wrote:
Jesus Punkturis, going to be blowing up some POS towers with that catalyst fit? Sooo much ammo lol

Love the changes though.

As some others have said, and I'll likely repost into the F&I discussion section, is it possible to get information on said fit in a more information window? Much like how the current fitting window has the expansion arrow that shows more stats, bringing that onto a saved fit that might show relevant information with your skills and such would be downright ******* awesome.

As a second idea to that, having a market section that shows the current price of the modules in your region/total price of the fit in your region and the option to buy all the modules on said fit, with a single click (or two..) would save people a lot of time and hassle. I understand you can save it to the quick bar and get the items that way, but you still have to click each module, find the right price, right place, click buy now, confirm, repeat for EVERY module type.

I'm lazy, and if I think the price is reasonable, why not just hit buy now and have it do it for me? All ready to go.

More time pew'ing, less time clicking and assembling things to pew.


there won't be added a "buy this" button now and I don't have any plans on doing so.. but until then you can drag the fitting to the market quickbar and have all the things there.. should at least make things a LITTLE bit easier Big smile

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Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#118 - 2012-07-31 18:24:35 UTC
CCP Punkturis wrote:

there won't be added a "buy this" button now and I don't have any plans on doing so.. but until then you can drag the fitting to the market quickbar and have all the things there.. should at least make things a LITTLE bit easier Big smile


This news makes me a little sad, but it's not really unexpected. Thanks anyway. :)

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.

CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
#119 - 2012-07-31 18:28:22 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:
CCP Punkturis wrote:

there won't be added a "buy this" button now and I don't have any plans on doing so.. but until then you can drag the fitting to the market quickbar and have all the things there.. should at least make things a LITTLE bit easier Big smile


This news makes me a little sad, but it's not really unexpected. Thanks anyway. :)

-Liang


maybe you should just be happy about the changes I made instead of being sad P

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Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#120 - 2012-07-31 18:32:28 UTC
CCP Punkturis wrote:
Liang Nuren wrote:
CCP Punkturis wrote:

there won't be added a "buy this" button now and I don't have any plans on doing so.. but until then you can drag the fitting to the market quickbar and have all the things there.. should at least make things a LITTLE bit easier Big smile


This news makes me a little sad, but it's not really unexpected. Thanks anyway. :)

-Liang


maybe you should just be happy about the changes I made instead of being sad P


But I *AM* happy about the changes you made! :hi5:

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.