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A toon with NO industrial?
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Mischa Barton
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-07-31 05:58:35 UTC
Is there a combination of Race/religion/corp that has zero industry skills? There always seems to be mining or something else industrial that taints my ideal player. I'd love to build a toon with 'pure' warfare skills.
Ron Maudieu
#2 - 2012-07-31 06:02:43 UTC
I'm pretty sure every character starts with mining level 2 now
Pipa Porto
#3 - 2012-07-31 06:57:02 UTC
Everyone starts with the same skills now. Besides the racial skills, ofc.

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#4 - 2012-07-31 23:37:20 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
Everyone starts with the same skills now. Besides the racial skills, ofc.

Since Apocrypha (March 10th 2009):

Starting Skills

Electronics 3 (8,000)
Engineering 3 (8,000)
Shield Operation 2 (1,415)
Gunnery 2 (1,415)
Small [Racial] Turret 3 (8,000)
Mining 2 (1,415)
Mechanic 2 (1,415)
Navigation 3 (8,000)
Science 3 (8,000)
Spaceship Command 3 (8,000)
[Racial] Frigate 2 (2,829)

Total = 8,000 * 6 + 1,415 * 4 + 2,829 = 56,489
Pipa Porto
#5 - 2012-07-31 23:49:47 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Everyone starts with the same skills now. Besides the racial skills, ofc.

Since Apocrypha (March 10th 2009):

Starting Skills

Electronics 3 (8,000)
Engineering 3 (8,000)
Shield Operation 2 (1,415)
Gunnery 2 (1,415)
Small [Racial] Turret 3 (8,000)
Mining 2 (1,415)
Mechanic 2 (1,415)
Navigation 3 (8,000)
Science 3 (8,000)
Spaceship Command 3 (8,000)
[Racial] Frigate 2 (2,829)

Total = 8,000 * 6 + 1,415 * 4 + 2,829 = 56,489


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Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#6 - 2012-08-23 01:04:39 UTC
Mining 1 is a stain on my characters sheet that I can never remove. OCD is about to force me to train it to 4.

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Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
#7 - 2012-08-24 05:44:00 UTC
Brooks Puuntai wrote:
Mining 1 is a stain on my characters sheet that I can never remove. OCD is about to force me to train it to 4.


Might as well, sticking a gas harvester on your bait ship makes you better bait. And bait is a kind of PvP.
Kathina Tryndal
The Mitre Corporation
#8 - 2012-08-31 11:18:24 UTC
Not sure if I really like every char starting off the same way, these days - the last char I created under the old system came out with over 800k SP - (had Indy V and one other skill at V - can't remember what it was, now). Not that he's doing much else but PI atm, as I train this char to be an ISK mission runner.

It'd be nice if they had an advanced mode - where you could take a set amount of SP, and stick them where you want - for alt's (only?) - not that 56k is all that much, really...
Obsidiana
Atrament Inc.
#9 - 2012-08-31 17:54:54 UTC
For an alt for an current player, mining may not be needed at all.

For a genuine new player, they probably will need it to make ISK.

I think CCP needs to account for the former and the later. An advanced character creator would be one option. Maybe you want no mining/industry skills. Maybe you want all mining and industry and the racial ship to be the ORE frigate... forever cursing them with an ORE rookie ship. >:P
Maxpie
MUSE LLP
#10 - 2012-09-07 21:13:36 UTC
Brooks Puuntai wrote:
Mining 1 is a stain on my characters sheet that I can never remove. OCD is about to force me to train it to 4.


Perhaps you could have someone repeatedly pod you without a clone to get rid of it?

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Illest Insurrectionist
Sparta.
#11 - 2012-09-07 21:36:05 UTC
Maxpie wrote:
Brooks Puuntai wrote:
Mining 1 is a stain on my characters sheet that I can never remove. OCD is about to force me to train it to 4.


Perhaps you could have someone repeatedly pod you without a clone to get rid of it?


Nope. There is the free clone that would prohibit that.
Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
#12 - 2012-09-08 04:39:20 UTC
Starting point to train up an orca.

Use orca to haul all your fitted pvp ships around.

Great for mission runners too as it can help you open up new agents and carry a noctis.
Pipa Porto
#13 - 2012-09-08 05:02:36 UTC
Illest Insurrectionist wrote:
Maxpie wrote:
Brooks Puuntai wrote:
Mining 1 is a stain on my characters sheet that I can never remove. OCD is about to force me to train it to 4.


Perhaps you could have someone repeatedly pod you without a clone to get rid of it?


Nope. There is the free clone that would prohibit that.


In theory, you could fill up 900k SP worth of other stuff in amounts small enough that they're less than the 250 SP that Mining 1 represents, so that Mining 1 takes the SP loss. But I'm not sure if there are enough skills to make it actually possible, and you'd never totally rid yourself of the Mining skill (or some of the SP towards L1).

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Tau Cabalander
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Working Stiffs
#14 - 2012-09-08 23:35:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Even if you had 0 skill points in mining, it would still appear as an injected skill.

EDIT: Doh! Reading comprehension FTL