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Is it true that it will be impossible to solo a hulk kill in patch?
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Melodee619
Heavy Industry Construction and Mining Inc.
#41 - 2012-07-31 01:44:15 UTC
Aquilinus Naari wrote:
Good Grief! You mean griefers will actually have to shoot at ships that shoot back? Shocked I can see why their so upset Roll


There is no such thing as griefing, there never has been. it was simply a silly childish name some idiot thought up cos it wasn't fair he had to pay attention to what he was doing. EVE has always been about self responsibility, but of coarse now that CCP are trying to mainstream the game they want it to be nice an cuddles n flowers in HS.

It is not bitching or crying to to state how bad you think things have gotten with the game, have you forum warriors forgot the whole "gold ship's" leak they were gonna drop on us till it blew up in their face...

You realize now that they are making it impossible to lose your mining ship, the bots from RA an goon an every other teenager are going to infest every belt in hs.
As for "having to kill ships that shoot back" lol pfft man I did my time in XXdeath an GC, 0.0 is highly over rated. It's as boring as **** with over egocentric FC's an dipshit CEO's who really think they are well hard.

Lastly to repond to the foolish notion that I am after bots. I dont care if it's a bot or not, miners SHOULD be killable, why is it they should be so special as to avoid what makes EVE...EVE.
Melodee619
Heavy Industry Construction and Mining Inc.
#42 - 2012-07-31 01:51:36 UTC
Togg Bott wrote:
Meh. it will probably take all of 1/2 day to figure out the needed ships/config for ganking the miners. a little less profitable... but will not be impossible.


yer I've never been one to care about cost of killing a bot/afk miner. I use Tempest t2 fit because its a garenteed kill no matter what. The cost is irrelevant since you can make isk without even trying in EVE.
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#43 - 2012-07-31 01:54:21 UTC
just run a few anoms on an alt/nullsec main in a proper ship during your GCC timer

you'll easily recoup whatever you lost ganking a bad person

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
Melodee619
Heavy Industry Construction and Mining Inc.
#44 - 2012-07-31 02:00:27 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
just run a few anoms on an alt/nullsec main in a proper ship during your GCC timer

you'll easily recoup whatever you lost ganking a bad person


yer this is true, I usually go down to -a- land an rat, but I figure with -a- getting a pasting at moment, they might be a little cranky lol
Oraac Ensor
#45 - 2012-07-31 02:02:57 UTC
Karl Hobb wrote:
Aquilinus Naari wrote:
Good Grief! You mean griefers will actually have to shoot at ships that shoot back? Shocked

Did mining barges suddenly get weapon mounts?

I think you've missed the basic point being trolled made here.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#46 - 2012-07-31 02:04:26 UTC
Oraac Ensor wrote:
Karl Hobb wrote:
Aquilinus Naari wrote:
Good Grief! You mean griefers will actually have to shoot at ships that shoot back? Shocked

Did mining barges suddenly get weapon mounts?

I think you've missed the basic point being trolled made here.

They can.. target paint, point, web and jam you I think?

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Melodee619
Heavy Industry Construction and Mining Inc.
#47 - 2012-07-31 02:04:58 UTC
na it's eve forums, you dont come here for rational discussion, never have done. forums are 90% youngsters with zero real understanding. My mistake was even bothering to post :)
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#48 - 2012-07-31 02:12:29 UTC
Oraac Ensor wrote:
Karl Hobb wrote:
Aquilinus Naari wrote:
Good Grief! You mean griefers will actually have to shoot at ships that shoot back? Shocked

Did mining barges suddenly get weapon mounts?

I think you've missed the basic point being trolled made here.

Sorry, what? Nothing is stopping gankers from shooting any ships right now or in the future, so there really isn't any point being made unless mining barges have suddenly sprouted weapon mounts.

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#49 - 2012-07-31 02:16:15 UTC
Barges (and exhumers) have always been able to field weapons and shoot back.
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#50 - 2012-07-31 02:43:44 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Barges (and exhumers) have always been able to field weapons and shoot back.

Yes, drones are weapons too, Mr. Obvious-to-everyone-but-these-idiot-whinetards.

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.
MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#51 - 2012-07-31 03:44:33 UTC  |  Edited by: MotherMoon
Melodee619 wrote:
Otto Weston wrote:
This might be bait, but I'll bite.

A skiff will be able to get 100k EHP, as they're making it that the Skiff/Procurer are the anti-gank tuff miners. Definitely not a Hulk. A hulk will get AT MAXIMUM 50k EHP if they sink some isk and dedicate to pure tank.

In that case, they might as well get a skiff. So, I believe Hulks are still gankable, but not to catalysts/thoraxes/brutixes. You'd need an arty torn.


Well I only use Tempests, an I know for a fact I cant get 50k salvo off. so you could say they are making it so no miners can be killed. Remember they did this with Jihad. Before it you could kill concord, but the botters screamed so loud CCP removed the ability.


the hulk won't have much more tank than now. just fit a bunch of gryos, also use a tornado.

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Tyraeil Starblade
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#52 - 2012-07-31 03:46:31 UTC
Delicious Goon tears. I hope they go through with this, so the rest of the Goons who don't frequent the forums or go on Singularity come out en masse in a fit of rage so epic I'll have to schedule time off from work just to drink in the forums.
Melodee619
Heavy Industry Construction and Mining Inc.
#53 - 2012-07-31 04:34:51 UTC
that would be fine, except I am not a goon. I used to be a member of SA but I realized I was too old for their **** :)....

Besides not all of us want to play wow in space like you obviously do. None can say CCP have not been working on mainstreaming EVE an that means making it attractive (safe) for wow generation. In prosess pissing off the people who have spent 7 years playing an keeping the game running.
Ron Maudieu
#54 - 2012-07-31 04:41:22 UTC
Melodee619 wrote:
that would be fine, except I am not a goon. I used to be a member of SA but I realized I was too old for their **** :)....

Besides not all of us want to play wow in space like you obviously do. None can say CCP have not been working on mainstreaming EVE an that means making it attractive (safe) for wow generation. In prosess pissing off the people who have spent 7 years playing an keeping the game running.


So what do you want to play? Duck Hunt?
Melodee619
Heavy Industry Construction and Mining Inc.
#55 - 2012-07-31 04:50:50 UTC
Ron Maudieu wrote:
Melodee619 wrote:
that would be fine, except I am not a goon. I used to be a member of SA but I realized I was too old for their **** :)....

Besides not all of us want to play wow in space like you obviously do. None can say CCP have not been working on mainstreaming EVE an that means making it attractive (safe) for wow generation. In prosess pissing off the people who have spent 7 years playing an keeping the game running.


So what do you want to play? Duck Hunt?


Well I have a training cue setup, an I'm gonna play GW2 where everyone hunts goons till they leave the server. Funnily enough EVE is the only MMO in history that goons play well. All the others they have been crushed.
Kult Altol
The Safe Space
#56 - 2012-07-31 05:02:52 UTC
Meh, I am glad they are making ore ships better. Why do you care if miners have it easier? The eve miner career sucks and is boring as it is. Least make it profitable.

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Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#57 - 2012-07-31 05:09:50 UTC
Melodee619 wrote:
So I jsut got told today they are removing the ability to solo kill a hulk ?, giving a hulk 80k hp is just moronic if it's true. It really does mirror the over reaction to Goons Jihad many years ago which sparked Concord boosting. Because the botters cried to devs that it wasn't fair they couldn't bot in peace. Jihad was one of the best things to happen to EVE, an as much as I have fought them over years, I have respect for what they do/did for EVE game play.

I dont know if this is true, but apparently on Test it takes 4-5 battleships to kill 1 hulk.
I will be shocked if dev's have done it again an given into the miner bots an really done this. EVE is going down the wow route so fast.

3 years ago, just undocking a freighter you had to actually plan your route, an think ahead. There is no need for thought anymore, you see dozens of freighters sitting afk in 4-4 every day, without a care in world.
I was gonna buy myself a second char again but I think I'll wait now an see whats gonna happen, this may well be last straw for me (I hate to be one of those guys), but still I dont play wow games.


wah? Oops

Fail to adapt, or adapt to failure....

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Ron Maudieu
#58 - 2012-07-31 05:14:23 UTC
The problem is, if you have noticed, most of these "internet spaceships police" seem to think all miners are bots. Mining to me is something I do when I just want to chill out; I can't think of any of the other "care-bear" activities I take part in are less profitable as mining is.
Ron Maudieu
#59 - 2012-07-31 05:15:42 UTC
I would say to all the whiners "adapt or die", but then I would be accused of trolling.
Suddenly Forums ForumKings
Doomheim
#60 - 2012-07-31 05:17:42 UTC
Ron Maudieu wrote:
The problem is, if you have noticed, most of these "internet spaceships police" seem to think all miners are bots. Mining to me is something I do when I just want to chill out; I can't think of any of the other "care-bear" activities I take part in are less profitable as mining is.


It's your own fault it's unprofitable.
You have too many miners mining.