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Halaima Miner Bumping - SHAREHOLDER REPORT #3 - The Dawn of a New Kamio

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Sorceror Majiir
Doomheim
#21 - 2012-07-30 08:59:43 UTC
James 315 wrote:
Sorceror Majiir wrote:
{anger and hatred}

It sounds like you're making a martyr of yourself..


LOL okay hold a sec I'm gonna pee myself I'm laughing so hard... whew, okay where to begin.. well first your misusing the notion of a martyr, but if you want to say - I want to bring attention to your griefing , then yeah you would be right.

James 315 wrote:

The other problem I see in your post is that you think mining is important. It's not. The economy of EVE would function just fine without miners,


Really, so your saying that the dev's spend god knows how much money developing mining and the use of minerals to make things just so lazy perps like you would have a target? Got it.. "rolls eyes" "more uncontrolled laughter"

James 315 wrote:

Finally, I'm not out to ruin some ice miner's day. ~ more pointless role play crap ~


God please stop, I'm gonna burst something..lololol "trying to catch my breathe"

Lol, clearly you missed most of the main points in my post but heh that doesn't really surprise me. Just so we're clear, your a perp, extorting isk from players..check, you think it's cute to roleplay that.. - check. Your oblivious to anyone but yourself and could care less if your actions have an adverse affect on the game and Eve - check

Heh, ya know, I have a prediction. Coming soon to a mining field near you.. ship anchors. I can hear the perp whine now...

Speaking of fixes to put perps out of business.. did anyone notice the scan killing thinger bobs on the deadspace gates plus the cloaked and shielded mission containers.. haha, kudo's to the Eve devs.. nice work guys, fewer perps means a happier HS.



Sun Win
#22 - 2012-07-30 09:50:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Sun Win
Sorceror Majiir wrote:
~rude intrusion~


Welcome to the Market Discussion forum, friend. I hope your stay is a pleasant one. You seem to have gotten a little agitated and confused, so here's some tips to help you out.

This is a forum for discussing the business of Eve. You seem to have stumbled across one of the more exciting new ventures where James 315 is attempting to run a new hybrid government/enterprise. Perhaps you are already knew this? Your blatherings give me the impression that you are one of James' reluctant subjects.

I'm worried that in all the excitement you might have gotten lost. You keep talking about role playing but this isn't a role playing forum. The role playing forum is over here. Then you go on to make some suggestions for some new modules and/or anchorable structures (the details weren't clear to me). The ships and modules forum is over here. I have no idea what you were trying to get at with the bit about deadspace cloaking things but that would probably be best brought up in the missions and complexes forum or, to be frank, general discussion.

Hope this helps and best of luck in your future endeavours.



P.S. Seriously though, just pay the fee and this will go a lot easier for you.
CorInaXeraL
The Dresdeneers
#23 - 2012-07-30 13:49:15 UTC
Sorceror Majiir wrote:
/violin


That investment just keeps paying out. Love it.
Annie Freemont
Doomheim
#24 - 2012-07-30 15:37:38 UTC
No I didn't read the whole O/P.. Do you bump people who say in local or I/M you to stop bumping.them? Also, can someone who isn't a botter report you for harassment after they've indicated that they are not a botter but a sad human being mining ice for profit while studying for exams, or from work, etc.? I would have read the whole post except I noticed the length of it beforehand. It's a long post about making isk off an illegal activity, and props to you for figuring out how to do that AND draw other players into it.

Yes, I am an alt.

James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp RELOADED
CODE.
#25 - 2012-07-30 16:13:31 UTC
Annie Freemont wrote:
No I didn't read the whole O/P.

That was your first mistake. Read it all, it will be good for you. Smile

Quote:
Do you bump people who say in local or I/M you to stop bumping.them?

No, I bump people who violate the New Halaima Code of Conduct. To answer your question more directly, miners take orders from me, not the other way around.

Quote:
Also, can someone who isn't a botter report you for harassment after they've indicated that they are not a botter but a sad human being mining ice for profit while studying for exams, or from work, etc.?

They can send in the petition, yes--getting the result they're looking for is another matter entirely.

Quote:
I would have read the whole post except I noticed the length of it beforehand. It's a long post about making isk off an illegal activity, and props to you for figuring out how to do that AND draw other players into it.

Thanks for the props.

And whilst we're distributing props, let me give you some: Congratulations on having the confidence to come to EVE-O on an 11-day old alt and act like you know more about what's illegal and what isn't than the GMs who deny all the petitions filed against me. Lol
Annie Freemont
Doomheim
#26 - 2012-07-30 16:25:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Annie Freemont
Read the sig Big smile


Oh yeah - the illegal activity is botting, not you bumping in this context. I guess harassing everyone in a system that is not a botter makes you an Equal Opportunity Harasser and therefore exempt from harassment petitions. I know many moons ago they specifically mentioned "bumping" in the EULA and/or rules of conduct. I don't see it now.

Yes, I am an alt.

CorInaXeraL
The Dresdeneers
#27 - 2012-07-30 16:29:07 UTC
Annie Freemont wrote:
Read the sig Big smile


Before we read the sig, can the investing committee vote on whether or not to read it? Reading it might detract valuable bumping time from the entrepreneur involved in this feat of mining-industry control and set progress in Kamio back.
James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp RELOADED
CODE.
#28 - 2012-07-30 16:35:45 UTC
Annie Freemont wrote:
Read the sig Big smile

In the sig you confess to being an alt. I pointed out that you were posting on an 11-day old alt. And...? What?
Annie Freemont
Doomheim
#29 - 2012-07-30 16:40:05 UTC
James 315 wrote:
Annie Freemont wrote:
Read the sig Big smile

In the sig you confess to being an alt. I pointed out that you were posting on an 11-day old alt. And...? What?



And?

Yes, I am an alt.

Zicon Shak'ra
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2012-07-30 17:18:39 UTC
James, you are a shining example of how upstanding citizens can take action to improve their communities, even at great personal sacrifice. I salute you. o7

Wormholes are cool, m'kay?

James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp RELOADED
CODE.
#31 - 2012-07-30 17:59:27 UTC
Sorceror Majiir wrote:
LOL okay hold a sec I'm gonna pee myself I'm laughing so hard... whew, okay where to begin.. well first your misusing the notion of a martyr,

I disagree. Much of your post was going on and on about how terrible it is to mine, and how CCP should reimburse you for the real-life sacrifice miners make in order to produce everyone else's ships.

Quote:
but if you want to say - I want to bring attention to your griefing , then yeah you would be right.

In that case, you're doing a poor job. I still haven't seen you point to any griefing activity on my part.

Quote:
Really, so your saying that the dev's spend god knows how much money developing mining and the use of minerals to make things just so lazy perps like you would have a target? Got it.. "rolls eyes" "more uncontrolled laughter"

I'll put aside the issue of whether the mining aspect of EVE has really been that developed--I'll just point out how you're the one who spent most of a post talking about how boring and lifeless it is. As to the "target providing" aspect of your question, well...Not in those terms, but kind of yes. Miners are the bottom of the PvP foodchain. They are meant to be targets for the rest of us.

Quote:
Lol, clearly you missed most of the main points in my post but heh that doesn't really surprise me. Just so we're clear, your a perp, extorting isk from players..check,

I don't "extort" anyone. I am bringing revolutionary change to a part of the game that needs to be fundamentally transformed. We can't continue down the path of automated mining in absolute safety. That would kill the game, which you would know if you read my Manifestos on the subject. Miners must be required to follow a set of laws, which I have conveniently codified. And yeah, the miners are going to have to give me some isk. Ten million a year. Boo-freakin'-hoo. Roll

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you think it's cute to roleplay that.. - check. Your oblivious to anyone but yourself and could care less if your actions have an adverse affect on the game and Eve - check

I "roleplay" a businessman and leader in the same way that you "roleplay" a disgruntled miner. Blink
Valdearg Dragonblood
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2012-07-30 19:21:10 UTC
Hmm.. We need to band together to help James315 expand his operation into every high sec ice mining field in the universe. Train 2 or 3 professional bumpers to handle each field 24 hours a day. The bots would no longer be able to drive prices down and miners who don't wish to follow the New Code would not be able to mine ice. That kind of control over those resources would potentially send the price of ice through the roof, making it far more profitable for the ice miners who already follow the New code. Not to mention the investment potential if we could get in on the ground floor.

@James315: Any thoughts as to when you may open up more shares for sale? I'd love to invest in your current and future expansions. :)
Rykker Bow
Center for Advanced Studies
#33 - 2012-07-30 19:56:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Rykker Bow
James 315 wrote:

I "roleplay" ...


In my opinion everything in James' posts revolves around this for all parties regardless of what comes after. This is an MMO after all and is meant to be enjoyed...by the standards that you see fit... in the environment provided by the developer and the rules they establish. The enjoyment of the OP and the enjoyment of the haters do not have to be the same and in fact is what is great about MMO's; that so many different personalities can come together and create a world filled with enjoyment and pain. More So the latter in EvE and is what sets this game apart from so many other cookie cutter games.

That we have something like this to talk about, that we have something to band together on and either cheer or hate makes this one of the best MMO's out there.

For the haters out there, relax a little (not really! keep on trolling and hating for the drama!) and enjoy the game for what it is. As most things in EvE, it will not last indefinitely and you will have stories to tell for years to come because of it. To be honest, 10 million is a paltry sum for those who have Hulks and Orca's at their disposal, the thing they are opposed to is the audacity of the request rather than the sum. This small sum keeps it within my minimalistic tolerances for being ‘malicious’ in a game and I’m thoroughly enjoying living vicariously through the OP in his semi-extortionistic ways thus coming full circle to the opening, this is my “rollplay” and my version of enjoyment.

Keep doing what you're doing James. Enjoy the game.

The Mjolnir Bloc - Lowsec PvP for the sophisticated - The Mjolnir Bloc Killboards

James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp RELOADED
CODE.
#34 - 2012-07-30 22:29:39 UTC
Valdearg Dragonblood wrote:
@James315: Any thoughts as to when you may open up more shares for sale? I'd love to invest in your current and future expansions. :)

No shares for sale at the moment, but there's likely to be another offering in the near future. Keep checking back with the Market Discussions subforum; when the next offering occurs, it will be announced here first. Idea
James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp RELOADED
CODE.
#35 - 2012-07-31 02:57:29 UTC
I'm pleased to present two posters celebrating the New Order of Highsec! Both of these were created by the talented Sun Win, one of our investors, who evemailed me earlier today:

HOPE
MERCY

I have added these to the OP and will include them in the list of links so future readers will be able to enjoy them as well. If anyone else has artistic gifts or feels inspired, don't be shy about sending them in. I'm sure many will appreciate the effort as much as I do. Smile
R0me0 Charl1e
Easy A Industries
#36 - 2012-07-31 06:11:27 UTC  |  Edited by: R0me0 Charl1e
Sun Win is indeed, full of win. As of this post, I have posted these pictures in Kamio local chat.
Sorceror Majiir
Doomheim
#37 - 2012-07-31 11:04:17 UTC
Sun Win wrote:
Sorceror Majiir wrote:
~rude intrusion~


Welcome to the Market Discussion forum, friend. I hope your stay is a pleasant one. You seem to have gotten a little agitated and confused, so here's some tips to help you out.

This is a forum for discussing the business of Eve. You seem to have stumbled across one of the more exciting new ventures where James 315 is attempting to run a new hybrid government/enterprise. Perhaps you are already knew this? Your blatherings give me the impression that you are one of James' reluctant subjects.

I'm worried that in all the excitement you might have gotten lost. You keep talking about role playing but this isn't a role playing forum. The role playing forum is over here. Then you go on to make some suggestions for some new modules and/or anchorable structures (the details weren't clear to me). The ships and modules forum is over here. I have no idea what you were trying to get at with the bit about deadspace cloaking things but that would probably be best brought up in the missions and complexes forum or, to be frank, general discussion.

Hope this helps and best of luck in your future endeavours.



P.S. Seriously though, just pay the fee and this will go a lot easier for you.



Ah thanks for the welcome. :)

Since this post is about extortion and griefing, I believe this thread is not a market discussion but rather a facade of a legitimate market discussion and is in fact an attempt to legitimize what I consider a detrimental and epidemic game phenomenon.

*bump*

since the post is full of role play from the OP why would I want to go anywhere else?

*bump*

I assure you, I never have, nor ever will pay any extorter, griefer, or any other perps anything.. ever. I do however find great enjoyment in expressing my opinion on such matters. Heck, kicking dirt in the face of evil is almost more fun than playing the game. I really don't expect the perps to change, but maybe, if they ever stop to think about what they do. Or they will simply get bored, or the devs will nix whatever loophole they've discovered. In fact, it's this last point that actually does **** me off. No one even thinks about how much effort, time, and real money the devs have to exert to counter all this perp crap. Imagine all the new content that doesn't get written because a dev has to go fix this exploit, or this other thing perps are using. It's sad really.

*bump*





Sorceror Majiir
Doomheim
#38 - 2012-07-31 11:10:07 UTC
CorInaXeraL wrote:
Sorceror Majiir wrote:
/violin


That investment just keeps paying out. Love it.


hugs and kisses sugar xoxoxox.
By the way, get off the drugs your eyes are bleeding.
Sorceror Majiir
Doomheim
#39 - 2012-07-31 11:15:14 UTC
Valdearg Dragonblood wrote:
Hmm.. We need to band together to help James315 expand his operation into every high sec ice mining field in the universe. Train 2 or 3 professional bumpers to handle each field 24 hours a day. The bots would no longer be able to drive prices down and miners who don't wish to follow the New Code would not be able to mine ice. That kind of control over those resources would potentially send the price of ice through the roof, making it far more profitable for the ice miners who already follow the New code. Not to mention the investment potential if we could get in on the ground floor.

@James315: Any thoughts as to when you may open up more shares for sale? I'd love to invest in your current and future expansions. :)


Oh heck yeah, carry on brutha.. the faster you can expand the complaints the quicker we will see you..... gone !!! :)


ship anchors..... mid slot mod...... ftw!!!!!!!!!!
Sorceror Majiir
Doomheim
#40 - 2012-07-31 11:23:52 UTC
CorInaXeraL wrote:
Annie Freemont wrote:
Read the sig Big smile


Before we read the sig, can the investing committee vote on whether or not to read it? Reading it might detract valuable bumping time from the entrepreneur involved in this feat of mining-industry control and set progress in Kamio back.



Oh heck, if you insist I'll do it. I'll come to Kamio and MINE.. yeah baby.. mine mine mine.. lets see if you can bump me off my tasty roid. Just post a time you want me to show up so you'll have your shot at me.. *wink*
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