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Nathan Galbadia
War Eagle Fleet
Northern Coalition.
#1 - 2012-07-29 05:55:37 UTC
Will Gallente receive a boost in pvp any time soon? I really like their ships and would love to see them be a viable choice in pvp.
Windorian
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-07-29 06:29:31 UTC
Are you talking FW? or the gallente ships in general?

In general, gallente ships are just fine at the moment.

The changes to T1 frigs gave the incursus a nice place near the top of the killboard for frigs.

The catalyst is a huge DPS monster for a small price.

Same for the brutix. I think the Talos is one of the best DPS vs cost ships in game.

Dominix is still a terror for many, i can never get a fight in mine,t hey just run.

Really the list goes on. If nothing else, Gallente is finally one of the MOST viable for PVP right now.
Nathan Galbadia
War Eagle Fleet
Northern Coalition.
#3 - 2012-07-29 06:35:10 UTC
Windorian wrote:
Are you talking FW? or the gallente ships in general?

In general, gallente ships are just fine at the moment.

The changes to T1 frigs gave the incursus a nice place near the top of the killboard for frigs.

The catalyst is a huge DPS monster for a small price.

Same for the brutix. I think the Talos is one of the best DPS vs cost ships in game.

Dominix is still a terror for many, i can never get a fight in mine,t hey just run.

Really the list goes on. If nothing else, Gallente is finally one of the MOST viable for PVP right now.



Sorry, I meant more in terms of FW. I can't find any large sized corps who don't laugh at me for mentioning a Gallente fleet.
Mekhana
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-07-29 06:38:48 UTC
Frigates lines are fine.

Destroyers. I think the Destroyer line would be fine for all races if the Trasher wasn't so good at everything.

Cruiser line, the Gallente needs a lot of work. Especially the navy cruisers and Vigilante.

BC line needs a ton of work. Although the Talos is a fine and manly ship, Brutix and Myrmidon aren't nearly used as much as the Hurricane and Harbringers and Drakes for a pretty good reason: they aren't nowhere as good.

Battleships: Gallente could really use a tier 3 Battleship for large fleet engagements. The Amarr have abaddons which are awesome in fleets tandems, Minmatar have Maelstroms that have a ton of alpha and the Caldari have the 'You can't stop the Rohk'. Hyperion could really use a lot of love.

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Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-07-29 07:00:53 UTC
gallente ships do not need a buff, they are great.
most people just have no idea how to use them.

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Cedo Nulli
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-07-29 11:58:41 UTC
Nathan Galbadia wrote:
Windorian wrote:
Are you talking FW? or the gallente ships in general?

In general, gallente ships are just fine at the moment.

The changes to T1 frigs gave the incursus a nice place near the top of the killboard for frigs.

The catalyst is a huge DPS monster for a small price.

Same for the brutix. I think the Talos is one of the best DPS vs cost ships in game.

Dominix is still a terror for many, i can never get a fight in mine,t hey just run.

Really the list goes on. If nothing else, Gallente is finally one of the MOST viable for PVP right now.



Sorry, I meant more in terms of FW. I can't find any large sized corps who don't laugh at me for mentioning a Gallente fleet.



You do know that you can have many factions ships in fleets right ?
Mekhana
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-07-29 13:38:04 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
gallente ships do not need a buff, they are great.
most people just have no idea how to use them.


Neither do you apparently.

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Vordak Kallager
Descendance.
GoonSwarm.
#8 - 2012-07-29 14:08:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Vordak Kallager
Mekhana wrote:

Battleships: Gallente could really use a tier 3 Battleship for large fleet engagements. The Amarr have abaddons which are awesome in fleets tandems, Minmatar have Maelstroms that have a ton of alpha and the Caldari have the 'You can't stop the Rohk'. Hyperion could really use a lot of love.


In my opinion the tier of the hype/mega need to be swapped and the mega needs some kind of Falloff bonus or something to make it more viable in BS fleets.

Cruisers are relatively shite. BC, frigs and dessies are relatively okay in my opinion. Brutix has kind of been made obsolete by the Talos, but the Myrm has a very specific role that it performs very well.

EDIT- Didn't mention the T2 Cruisers, which are all fine. Deimos could use a bit of work, but IDK how to make it more than just a "look at me, i'm in a Deimos instead of something else because i'm a hipster" boat.

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Mekhana
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-07-29 14:21:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Mekhana
I agree. Main problem with the Myrm is it's small drone bay and not being able to field heavy drones, also the limitations of drone warfare, as drones need to be looked over in general.

I think the Mega is fine, they are great to gank carriers. The Hyperion has the limitations of a glass cannon fist brawler. I can see a very well tanked abaddon with it's Scorch pulses holding the Hyperion away with it's 50km long arm while the Hyperion flails and punches the air screaming.

I'd like to see the armor rep bonus to also include a 'increase remote armor repping received by x%" but one is allowed to dream.

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Hrett
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-07-29 17:49:24 UTC
Gallente have lots of ships that are great for FW. Many Gallente ships need balance passes, but they are still useful. Plex fights are a great equalizer, and force people onto gates, where gallente ships shine.

Incursus, Comet Enyo and Ishkur are all good (though I personally rarely fly frigs). Ares.

Thorax, Vexor, Celestis, VNI and ENI are all useful in plex fights. Lachesis and Arazu are in high demand in fleets.

Myrm, Brutix, Talos are all good in their own way. I love them all.

Battleships are all usefult, but they are not the best large fleet ships. They are all good solo and small gang, which is what you will see in FW most.

Again, many ships need balance passes (Tristan, Comet (because of the T1 frig buff), ENI, VNI and brutix come to mind). They are all still viable FW ships - because of the plex mechanic.

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Mekhana
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-07-29 19:04:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Mekhana
That's right. That's the same reason Gallente ships were doing so well in the AT too. Because of the field of engagement is small and if you went beyond the boundary, the happy GM would press his magical button.

People could not warp off either and you could actually fence enemy ships in, preventing him to kiting you further.

The only problem Gallente fleets had were the over reliance on the Vindicator's webs. I hope CCP figures out we can't always bring a 1.5b ship to a BC roam or a 500m ship to a cruiser gang.

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X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#12 - 2012-07-30 16:24:41 UTC
Bah, Comet and ENI are great ships for their class. How would you like to be Minmatar and have to fly a Firetail and Scythe Fleet Issue around? The horror!

Gallente Tier 1 cruisers are excellent. The main issue with Tech 1 Gallente right now is that the Gallente T1 "fleet ships" (rail Brutix, rail Mega) can't compete with the higher tier alternatives of the other races in fleet fights. (Myrmidon and Hyperion are solo/small gang ships).
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#13 - 2012-07-30 16:27:39 UTC
It's high time there was some kind of buff to hybrid weapons and ammunition.

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Roderick Grey
Koenigsbergers
#14 - 2012-07-30 16:35:05 UTC
I think instead of blasters,Gallente ships should have battering rams. The Brutix/Astarte/Eos's Chin will then of course, be receiving a well deserved buff.

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Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#15 - 2012-07-30 16:36:34 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
Bah, Comet and ENI are great ships for their class. How would you like to be Minmatar and have to fly a Firetail and Scythe Fleet Issue around? The horror!

Gallente Tier 1 cruisers are excellent. The main issue with Tech 1 Gallente right now is that the Gallente T1 "fleet ships" (rail Brutix, rail Mega) can't compete with the higher tier alternatives of the other races in fleet fights. (Myrmidon and Hyperion are solo/small gang ships).



Actually once you learn how to fit and fly it, the Firetail is a wonderful ship.

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X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#16 - 2012-07-30 16:46:10 UTC  |  Edited by: X Gallentius
Xuixien wrote:
Actually once you learn how to fit and fly it, the Firetail is a wonderful ship.
Post a fit, and give some pointers please. Big smile
Hrett
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-07-30 19:28:07 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
Bah, Comet and ENI are great ships for their class. How would you like to be Minmatar and have to fly a Firetail and Scythe Fleet Issue around? The horror!

Gallente Tier 1 cruisers are excellent. The main issue with Tech 1 Gallente right now is that the Gallente T1 "fleet ships" (rail Brutix, rail Mega) can't compete with the higher tier alternatives of the other races in fleet fights. (Myrmidon and Hyperion are solo/small gang ships).



Yeah I know the Comet ENI and VNI all do pretty well, but the balance has and will change with the frig and soon to be cruiser buffs. I just meant they (and the other faction ships) will need to be looked at soon too.

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Nicklaus Klaus'nik
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2012-07-30 19:46:16 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
Bah, Comet and ENI are great ships for their class. How would you like to be Minmatar and have to fly a Firetail and Scythe Fleet Issue around? The horror!

Gallente Tier 1 cruisers are excellent. The main issue with Tech 1 Gallente right now is that the Gallente T1 "fleet ships" (rail Brutix, rail Mega) can't compete with the higher tier alternatives of the other races in fleet fights. (Myrmidon and Hyperion are solo/small gang ships).




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Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2012-07-30 20:31:10 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
Xuixien wrote:
Actually once you learn how to fit and fly it, the Firetail is a wonderful ship.
Post a fit, and give some pointers please. Big smile



I won't give his fit away although you can find it.

Tactics are what you would expect from a minmatar ship. Be kitey.

*Disclaimer, I'm too cheap to fly and lose these. Limited play time seriously cuts into my LP whoring.
Danny John-Peter
Blue Canary
Watch This
#20 - 2012-08-01 10:45:43 UTC
Basically, the issue with Gallente is barring a few ships (Proteus/Oneiros/Lachesis/Thanatos/Moros) their ships cannot perform a role in large scale fleet PVP usually due to wierd slot layouts, active tanking bonuses and lack of projection, however, they are excellent in small gang warfare.

(They also have a generally very strong capital selection)
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