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Alara IonStorm
#21 - 2012-07-30 07:22:50 UTC
I only worship CCP created and approved religions.
Herr Hammer Draken
#22 - 2012-07-30 07:23:29 UTC
Shameless Avenger wrote:
This is the 2nd thread I've seen in the last few weeks about this religious cans. The 1st thread got trolled to death and it looks like this one is going to end in the same way... Like the other thread, there is little info about the cans so I went to investigate.

Traveling through Kador I quickly found a few of said cans:

Can 1 - PIC - Message: "I am with you always, to the end of the age - Jesus"
Can 2 - PIC - Message: "Come to me all who are weary and I will give you rest - Jesus"
Can 3 - PIC - Message: "Be on guard against greed for one's life does not consists in the abundance of possesions - Jesus"
Can 4 - PIC - Message: "Christian? MinMMO.org"

All cans were anchored by the same toon, a 1.5 year old character in NPC corp.

Curious, I visited the website advertised on the cans. In there' I learned a few topics:

Why We Roll
We are raising up a new breed of missionary; one who is uniquely qualified to go into these strange new worlds we call MMOs.

Mission
To Invite, Encourage, and Educate Christians to inject missions activities into their gaming.

They also had a link, titled: "Immediate Need". I followed that and took me to another page where it seems they are recruiting for different jobs:

Ambassador: the heart and soul of the organization. Read some of the examples (EVE only for now because we need you) and start brainstorming some Missions activities that you could inject into your gaming. If you eventually decide that you could shift just 10% of your in-game time to missions you will be a game-changer!

Runner: advertise MinMMO in your world, or use a trial account for another, and run thru advertising MinMMO to any Christians there.

Looking deeper into the site, they also have a forum section, where they have instructions on how to set up more cans:

"Set name of containers (via right-click menu after launching from cargo) to be Bible verses, encouraging words, ads for outreach activities, etc. and anchor them by jump gates, stations, or acceleration gates. Cans can only be anchored in 0.7 sec or lower systems.

As a fun op (joint or solo), set a course thru low or null-sec and drop as many cans as you can before being caught and popped. Note that if you are pod-killed you will lose your implants. It helps to have a Viator or Prowler, Cloaking trained to level 4, and a Covert Ops Cloaking Device II equipped."

Another interesting thing on the site is the description of "Prayer Roams":

"As you roam through your universe pick a random person to start a conversation with. After a brief intro and get-to-know-you time simply ask them if they wouldn't mind you praying for them. If not then ask if there is any specific need, otherwise just say or write a simple prayer for them."

So... from my investigation, these are the things I expect:

1. A whole lot more cans
2. WOW players creating EVE trial accounts to convo-preach random pilots.
3. EVE players being recruited to anchor more cans and preach some more.
4. EVE players being recruited to go into other MMOs and preach there too.

Now if you excuse me, I'll go back to my regular activities and try to make some ISKies... so help me God.







You spent 100% more time to research this than I would have.

Herr Hammer Draken "The Amarr Prophet"
Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
#23 - 2012-07-30 07:29:22 UTC
Herr Hammer Draken wrote:

You spent 100% more time to research this than I would have.


I get bored sometimes Oops

"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro"
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#24 - 2012-07-30 07:35:31 UTC
Shameless Avenger wrote:
This is the 2nd thread I've seen in the last few weeks about this religious cans. The 1st thread got trolled to death and it looks like this one is going to end in the same way... Like the other thread, there is little info about the cans so I went to investigate.

Traveling through Kador I quickly found a few of said cans:

Can 1 - PIC - Message: "I am with you always, to the end of the age - Jesus"
Can 2 - PIC - Message: "Come to me all who are weary and I will give you rest - Jesus"
Can 3 - PIC - Message: "Be on guard against greed for one's life does not consists in the abundance of possesions - Jesus"
Can 4 - PIC - Message: "Christian? MinMMO.org"

All cans were anchored by the same toon, a 1.5 year old character in NPC corp.

Curious, I visited the website advertised on the cans. In there' I learned a few topics:

Why We Roll
We are raising up a new breed of missionary; one who is uniquely qualified to go into these strange new worlds we call MMOs.

Mission
To Invite, Encourage, and Educate Christians to inject missions activities into their gaming.

They also had a link, titled: "Immediate Need". I followed that and took me to another page where it seems they are recruiting for different jobs:

Ambassador: the heart and soul of the organization. Read some of the examples (EVE only for now because we need you) and start brainstorming some Missions activities that you could inject into your gaming. If you eventually decide that you could shift just 10% of your in-game time to missions you will be a game-changer!

Runner: advertise MinMMO in your world, or use a trial account for another, and run thru advertising MinMMO to any Christians there.

Looking deeper into the site, they also have a forum section, where they have instructions on how to set up more cans:

"Set name of containers (via right-click menu after launching from cargo) to be Bible verses, encouraging words, ads for outreach activities, etc. and anchor them by jump gates, stations, or acceleration gates. Cans can only be anchored in 0.7 sec or lower systems.

As a fun op (joint or solo), set a course thru low or null-sec and drop as many cans as you can before being caught and popped. Note that if you are pod-killed you will lose your implants. It helps to have a Viator or Prowler, Cloaking trained to level 4, and a Covert Ops Cloaking Device II equipped."

Another interesting thing on the site is the description of "Prayer Roams":

"As you roam through your universe pick a random person to start a conversation with. After a brief intro and get-to-know-you time simply ask them if they wouldn't mind you praying for them. If not then ask if there is any specific need, otherwise just say or write a simple prayer for them."

So... from my investigation, these are the things I expect:

1. A whole lot more cans
2. WOW players creating EVE trial accounts to convo-preach random pilots.
3. EVE players being recruited to anchor more cans and preach some more.
4. EVE players being recruited to go into other MMOs and preach there too.

Now if you excuse me, I'll go back to my regular activities and try to make some ISKies... so help me God.







These people have no idea what they are getting intoTwisted
Alara IonStorm
#25 - 2012-07-30 07:43:09 UTC
baltec1 wrote:

These people have no idea what they are getting intoTwisted

Dedicated, single minded, clique based, greedy, claims love and tolerance while forming fanatical totalitarian regimes the second enough people let their guard down...

They know exactly what they are getting into and they have 2000 years experience in it.

I think you are thinking of the Christians that don't think of church's as expensive stained glass barracks / recruitment center's / money machines. They might have trouble with EVE.
Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#26 - 2012-07-30 07:56:09 UTC
CCP need to ban this filth. As a atheist, I feel oppressed by religious hate speech.

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.
Nirnias Stirrum
UberWTFBBQ and Battle Technologies
#27 - 2012-07-30 08:03:54 UTC
Options:

1. Declare war on corp, destroy cans.
2. Ignore the cans and carry on your way,

3. Come to forums and whine and look for attention.



Pro!
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#28 - 2012-07-30 08:05:18 UTC
4. setup more cans advertising the Norse Gods.
Caroline Cosmos
Perkone
Caldari State
#29 - 2012-07-30 08:08:57 UTC
Alpheias wrote:
CCP need to ban this filth. As a atheist, I feel oppressed by religious hate speech.



I love atheists with similar convictions as the religious zealots.
Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#30 - 2012-07-30 08:11:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Alpheias
Caroline Cosmos wrote:
Alpheias wrote:
CCP need to ban this filth. As a atheist, I feel oppressed by religious hate speech.



I love atheists with similar convictions as the religious zealots.


As a atheist, I don't walk around, telling people that they are going to hell unless they change their ways nor do I think that they deserve going to hell.

You should look up the word zealot, I don't think you know what it actually means.

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.
Caroline Cosmos
Perkone
Caldari State
#31 - 2012-07-30 08:17:23 UTC
Alpheias wrote:
Caroline Cosmos wrote:
Alpheias wrote:
CCP need to ban this filth. As a atheist, I feel oppressed by religious hate speech.



I love atheists with similar convictions as the religious zealots.


As a atheist, I don't walk around, telling people that they are going to hell unless they change their ways nor do I think that they deserve going to hell.

You should look up the word zealot, I don't think you know what it actually means.



I know exactly what zealotry is, and you fit the bill. Atheism is just a reactionary religious belief. Saying that there absolutely is NO God is just as self serving and self righteous as saying that there absolutely IS a God.

Saying you are smarter than people who believe in any "God" and acting like the religious people are all stupid sheep makes you look just as fascist as the ones you abhor.

If religion "offends" you so much, don't practice it. But don't act like you're some rebellious genius either.
Caroline Cosmos
Perkone
Caldari State
#32 - 2012-07-30 08:20:58 UTC

zeal·ot   [zel-uht] Show IPA
noun
1.
a person who shows zeal.

There you go. So keep calling religion filth and beg for it's banning. Do it with zeal... err, well, actually do it in kind of some pseudo, far away gothy tone. That way maybe you can feel a little less zealous.
Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
#33 - 2012-07-30 08:22:32 UTC
Nirnias Stirrum wrote:
Options:

1. Declare war on corp, destroy cans.
2. Ignore the cans and carry on your way,

3. Come to forums and whine and look for attention.



Pro!


1. Read again, can preacher is on unwardeccable NPC noob corp.
2. Preaching is being done via direct convo, not just the cans
3. That's what the forums are for.

"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro"
Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#34 - 2012-07-30 08:23:50 UTC
Caroline Cosmos wrote:


I know exactly what zealotry is, and you fit the bill. Atheism is just a reactionary religious belief. Saying that there absolutely is NO God is just as self serving and self righteous as saying that there absolutely IS a God.

Saying you are smarter than people who believe in any "God" and acting like the religious people are all stupid sheep makes you look just as fascist as the ones you abhor.

If religion "offends" you so much, don't practice it. But don't act like you're some rebellious genius either.


Err.. What?

Atheism is the rejection of belief in the existence of deities. That is hardly a religious belief.

But self-righteous much?

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.
Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
#35 - 2012-07-30 08:23:51 UTC
Also... I wanted to coin a new EVE term:

"Preach with your main!"

"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro"
Anyanka Funk
Doomheim
#36 - 2012-07-30 08:24:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Anyanka Funk
Internet space anti-religious wars FTW! Time to start anchoring scientific fact cans. P
Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#37 - 2012-07-30 08:26:45 UTC
Anyanka Funk wrote:
Internet space anti-religious wars FTW! Time to start anchoring scientific fact cans. P


Darwin's theory of Evolution comes to mind.

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.
Caroline Cosmos
Perkone
Caldari State
#38 - 2012-07-30 08:29:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Caroline Cosmos
Alpheias wrote:
Caroline Cosmos wrote:


I know exactly what zealotry is, and you fit the bill. Atheism is just a reactionary religious belief. Saying that there absolutely is NO God is just as self serving and self righteous as saying that there absolutely IS a God.

Saying you are smarter than people who believe in any "God" and acting like the religious people are all stupid sheep makes you look just as fascist as the ones you abhor.

If religion "offends" you so much, don't practice it. But don't act like you're some rebellious genius either.


Err.. What?

Atheism is the rejection of belief in the existence of deities. That is hardly a religious belief.

But self-righteous much?


Oh it's a religious belief. It's totally based upon religion. You wouldn't HAVE atheism without religion. You believe it's your job to either belittle or mock religion at the very least, and at best remove it from society. (thus trying to make your belief system, or lack thereof the dominant one).

If you really had any kind of integrity, you'd just be atheist and be done with it, but you can't help yourself. You have to feel better than the religious people and mock them as much as you possibly can... Much like the religious people mock people like yourself. You really are one and the same.
Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#39 - 2012-07-30 08:33:23 UTC
Caroline Cosmos wrote:
Alpheias wrote:
Caroline Cosmos wrote:


I know exactly what zealotry is, and you fit the bill. Atheism is just a reactionary religious belief. Saying that there absolutely is NO God is just as self serving and self righteous as saying that there absolutely IS a God.

Saying you are smarter than people who believe in any "God" and acting like the religious people are all stupid sheep makes you look just as fascist as the ones you abhor.

If religion "offends" you so much, don't practice it. But don't act like you're some rebellious genius either.


Err.. What?

Atheism is the rejection of belief in the existence of deities. That is hardly a religious belief.

But self-righteous much?


Oh it's a religious belief. It's totally based upon religion. You wouldn't HAVE atheism without religion. You believe it's your job to either belittle or mock religion at the very least, and at best remove it from society. (thus trying to make your belief sustem, or lack thereof the dominant one).

If you really had any kind o integrity, you'd just be atheist and be done with it, but you can't help yourself. You have to feel better than the religious people and mock them as much as you possibly can... Much like the religious people mock people like yourself. You really are one and the same.


Not quite. I am doing this because this, my dear, has your knickers in a twist and it took so little.

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.
Caroline Cosmos
Perkone
Caldari State
#40 - 2012-07-30 08:33:27 UTC
Alpheias wrote:
Anyanka Funk wrote:
Internet space anti-religious wars FTW! Time to start anchoring scientific fact cans. P


Darwin's theory of Evolution comes to mind.



Funny. Darwin was a Christian.