EVE General Discussion

Thinking that we need a new pirate faction. Just the highlights:

Logistics attacking race: uses thermodynamics to melt your mods and create weaknesses in your tank. Also attacks ships attributes with persistence based weapons...thinking plasma cloud type weapons that stick to target and degrade attributes (targeting range, micro warp speed, ROF, etc).

Combined with traditional weapons...they beat you with systems attrition.

How about thanks for the constructive critisizm...jeez.

best buy sold another kid a keyboard without the requisite breathalyzer/\.

How about we use organizations that already exist in the game world yet haven't been fleshed out. Such as EoM.

Equilibrium of Mankind, some good ol terrorists.
Intaki Syndicate could be its own pirate organization
A splinter group formed from within all empires: The Sleepers. Tech influences outlined here illustrates a growing number of sleeper influenced implanted solders on the rise. They may be able to re-engineer any empire ships with their own sleeper knowledge and make them more deadly than wormhole sleeper drones.

So, kind of like various EWAR, but that can't be removed from the field by killing the ship?

What happened, you lose because they killed your Recon?

No.

How is this a troll?

This is exactly why devs that read forums don't take ideas seriously. Im not sayin this is a new idea...I'm just trying to contribute to the betterment of the game. Flamers and troll-accusers need not respond.

Perhaps we need to convene a 2013 eve innovation summit for users...toll accusers need not apply.

Already more than enough Pirate/lawless factions in game, they just need fleshing out.

I'm surprised that I am the first to point out that this is in the wrong forum. But i do agree with the idea of fleshing out pirate factions, and preferably being able to run missions and defend asteroid belts with them, instead of them blindly shooting you even if you have +10 standings towards them.

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Pirate ships in asteroid belts, if unharassed for >x min (where x makes sense - lets say 5) will bring in a larger and larger force over time, eventually even battleships in the lower-end of high sec (and ofc much faster in low and nullsec), resulting finally in mining vessels warping in and beginning their work. This would actually make :sense: within the EVE universe, rather than suicidal maniacs in frigates showing up and waiting to die. This would also allow people to experience a measure of "hard" but easy-to-get-at PvE. Good for the newbies, and bored carebears too :D Also, when the mining vessels arrive, i think they should be able to completely clear out an asteroid field, just like real players can. This will encourage team play, perhaps even "bouncer" style contracts for people needing a little protection when mining.
......which would mean, technically, that a player with maybe +8 or more standing SHOULD be allowed to fly :with: said npc rat corp, and attack players. Which would be the ultimate goal of fleshing out the pirate corps, tbh. Because if you flesh THEM out, you could then do the NPC "police/patrol" corps, and have players join them and perhaps be paid to patrol spacelanes, stargates and asteroid belts. Hell, even a nominal/minimum bounty for a pirate player kill of about 10 million or so, with bonuses being any bounty that was already on their heads. Eventually this would create a huge, vibrant chunk of the universe and the conflict arising from it would equal or beat that which you see in Faction Warfare. Personally, i'd prefer this sorta thing to fighting over lines on a map, but that's just because i'm a hippy.

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Speaking of FW: Fleshing out the whole pirate (+ other npc corps ***) thing to me is a really important and valuable chunk that is missing from the "hmmm what shall i do today?" part of playing EVE Online. Absorbing gameplay comes not only from storyline but also from feeling that you are truly a tiny, infinitely small part of a universe. The very best writers and directors know this - the stories we remember are the ones that felt as if they :could: exist. We see rats in belts, and military/police/patrol vessels on gates - these two forces NEVER interact. Why is that? It doesn't make sense, and it chips away at the EVE reality. Heavily involving player interaction with the NPC corporations seals that hole. It would be one more step to making EVE a whole universe.
One other thing about FW that really kinda bugs me is the Faction's stand-offish approach to it. They just sort of wave their hands at pod pilots and say "go kill them, take more territory and we will reward you". Were it timed right, i would :love: to see opposing faction NPC fleets warp in at range and start slugging it out. The player interaction (through repping, NPCs calling for ammo, providing on-grid bonuses and of course balls to the wall dps) itself would decide the outcome of who gets control of territory. This would encourage a "feeding frenzy" behaviour, with potentially huge battles erupting from what initially starts as a skirmish. NPC fleets, given time (ie, if the players keep them alive) should be able to bring reinforcements in wave, and perhaps do pretty things like fly in formation just for 23% more awesome.

(ran outta space; more to come)

Why the **** would you want a race in the game that has the name of a tampon brand?