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ASB is BULL.

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Zaraz Zaraz
Zontik Paraphernalia Inc
#101 - 2012-07-29 11:16:50 UTC
Possum's Awesome wrote:
Myz Toyou wrote:
Freezehunter wrote:




My Bhaalgorn had 250 K EHP, 850 gun + 200 drone DPS, dual web, dual NOS, one neutralizer, one tracking computer with tracking scripts, one target painter, one warp scrambler and 4 T2 pulses with COnflagration L crystals.


Found your problem, learn to Bhaalgorn.



This... wtf do you need a target painter for vs a rattler???? The thing's the size of a moon!


Thats no moon!!!
Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#102 - 2012-07-29 11:23:38 UTC
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MisterNick
The Sagan Clan
#103 - 2012-07-29 11:30:44 UTC
This just in, a ship known for its gigantic tank was found to be tanky Roll

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lanyaie
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#104 - 2012-07-29 11:34:58 UTC
It's all about skills.

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Sirinda
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
#105 - 2012-07-29 11:45:33 UTC
This thread is entertaining.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#106 - 2012-07-29 11:49:56 UTC
Possum's Awesome wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
The OP is annoyed because his opponent had the temerity to think outside the box and tank a little differently. CCP chuck these new modules at us to stir up fitting doctrines so that we don't all end up with cookie cutter fits.

An ASB or 2 might give a huge tanking advantage, as the OP witnessed, but it only lasts as long as you have cap boosters in cargo, the 60 second reload time downside more than compensates for the shield boost potential when a single ASB is fitted, dual ASBs is playing it safe but it still only lasts as long as the cap boosters do.


i think next time i do it on SiSi, I'm gonna look for this guy, and use my tengu booster and have my indy alt jet can me tons n tons of 400s.


Of course, you could just do the what you should've done to start with, and have more than one person.

Funny thing is, I bet a fully factioned out passive shield tank could tank a bhaal.


Do it in a Kestrel, or better yet a hauler.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Cpt Branko
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#107 - 2012-07-29 12:13:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Cpt Branko
To the OP: Your Bhaal setup is downright horrible. You had...what... fitted?

There is virtually no way to actually kill a properly fitted Bhaalgorn with any single ship in realistic circumstances (well, ok, Gallente recons and a lot of time on your hands somewhere away from stations/gates). The best you can hope, without some absurd specific counterfit (which is very unlikely on TQ given very few people will even undock a multibillion BS solo on TQ) , is to drive it away, maybe, possibly, with a plated Machariel or something. You simply are not going to have capacitor to keep a Bhaalgorn pointed, much less anything else, with three bonused faction neuts erasing your capacitor. The ship is only balanced by the fact that a properly fit one goes over 2 billion, and it's a slow and unwieldy battleship (to tackle things successfully it relies on people either being tards or tackling with covops alt).

If you want to make a thread about ASBs, please do so using numbers and other more concrete arguments then losing a failfit Bhaalgorn on SISI (hah) to a Rattlesnake or whatever, because you're not going to get any serious replies this way.
Freezehunter
#108 - 2012-07-29 13:01:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Freezehunter
In case you "leet pvpers" didn't notice, my setup was made to kill sub-bs ships and support ships and interceptors, the guy caught me in a belt.

How do you think I was able to kill a Vangel and a Vagabond and all that Rattlesnake's drones before I died?

Unlike some of you fail blobbers and "PVPers" who don't know your heads from your asses and use the same setup for everyone in a 500 man fleet, I know how to fit my ships for solo.

And I would have won 1 vs 3 too if it wasn't for the overpowered ASB crap.
What part of " I GOT HIM INTO 5% SHIELDS FIVE ******* TIMES IN A ROW BUT HE JUMPED BACK TO 100% 5 TIMES IN A ROW" don't you understand?
I would have killed him five times over along with the 2 other guys if it wasn't for asb being OP now STFU and quit trying to justify the existence of such an overpowered module.
I'd like to see an armor buffer tank go from 5% armor to 100% in a few seconds FIVE ******* TIMES IN A ROW.
Then you'd be the ones bitching, but when it is in your favor to have something OP OFC you don't complain.

I'd like to see any of you win a fight 1 v 1 against me in ANY ship in your **** fleet drakes or maelstroms.

Also, to the moron that called bull on the Vangel kill, here you go:

2012.07.29 00:32:00

Victim: MimmoB
Corp: MimmoB Corporation
Alliance: Unknown
Faction: Unknown
Destroyed: Vangel
System: PVH8-0
Security: -0.1
Damage Taken: 10161

Involved parties:

Name: Freezehunter (laid the final blow)
Security: 5.00
Corp: Fink Operations
Alliance: Eternal Syndicate
Faction: None
Ship: Bhaalgorn
Weapon: Mega Pulse Laser II
Damage Done: 10161

Name: subgranules
Security: -1.2
Corp: Murientor Tribe
Alliance: Defiant Legacy
Faction: Minmatar Republic
Ship: Rattlesnake
Weapon: Ammatar Navy Heavy Nosferatu
Damage Done: 0

Destroyed items:

Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile, Qty: 1500 (Cargo)
Valkyrie SW-600, Qty: 5 (Drone Bay)
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Federation Navy 1MN Afterburner
Hobgoblin II, Qty: 5 (Drone Bay)
Centii A-Type Adaptive Nano Plating
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Khanid Navy Ballistic Control System
Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer
ECCM - Radar II
Nova Fury Heavy Missile, Qty: 1500 (Cargo)
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Scourge Fury Heavy Missile, Qty: 1500 (Cargo)
Scourge Fury Heavy Missile, Qty: 32
Centum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Heavy Missile Launcher II
True Sansha Stasis Webifier
Medium Nanobot Accelerator II

Dropped items:

Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Khanid Navy Ballistic Control System
True Sansha Medium Energy Neutralizer
Inferno Fury Heavy Missile, Qty: 31
Nova Fury Heavy Missile, Qty: 31
True Sansha Medium Nosferatu
Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile, Qty: 31
Inferno Fury Heavy Missile, Qty: 1500 (Cargo)

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Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#109 - 2012-07-29 13:16:02 UTC
Do it on TQ and maybe we'll care about how average you are at PvP.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
Freezehunter
#110 - 2012-07-29 13:19:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Freezehunter
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Do it on TQ and maybe we'll care about how average you are at PvP.


Shut up 2012 miner corp carebear.

I can't hear you over the sound of me being a 2007 PVE carebear.

:P

By the way, you all got trolled, ASB is just fine.

Would be cool to limit it to one per ship like in ATX though.

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Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#111 - 2012-07-29 13:21:12 UTC
Freezehunter wrote:
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Do it on TQ and maybe we'll care about how average you are at PvP.


Shut up 2012 miner corp carebear.

I can't hear you over the sound of me being a 2007 PVE carebear.

:P

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Shaidar+Hussan

Worst thing is, I really am a care bear. And I still solo stuff more than you.

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Cameron Cahill
Deaths Consortium
Pandemic Horde
#112 - 2012-07-29 13:26:45 UTC
Freezehunter wrote:
In case you "leet pvpers" didn't notice, my setup was made to kill sub-bs ships and support ships and interceptors, the guy caught me in a belt.

How do you think I was able to kill a Vangel and a Vagabond and all that Rattlesnake's drones before I died?

Unlike some of you fail blobbers and "PVPers" who don't know your heads from your asses and use the same setup for everyone in a 500 man fleet, I know how to fit my ships for solo.

And I would have won 1 vs 3 too if it wasn't for the overpowered ASB crap.
What part of " I GOT HIM INTO 5% SHIELDS FIVE ******* TIMES IN A ROW BUT HE JUMPED BACK TO 100% 5 TIMES IN A ROW" don't you understand?
I would have killed him five times over along with the 2 other guys if it wasn't for asb being OP now STFU and quit trying to justify the existence of such an overpowered module.
I'd like to see an armor buffer tank go from 5% armor to 100% in a few seconds FIVE ******* TIMES IN A ROW.
Then you'd be the ones bitching, but when it is in your favor to have something OP OFC you don't complain.

I'd like to see any of you win a fight 1 v 1 against me in ANY ship in your **** fleet drakes or maelstroms.

Also, to the moron that called bull on the Vangel kill, here you go:

2012.07.29 00:32:00

Victim: MimmoB
Corp: MimmoB Corporation
Alliance: Unknown
Faction: Unknown
Destroyed: Vangel
System: PVH8-0
Security: -0.1
Damage Taken: 10161

Involved parties:

Name: Freezehunter (laid the final blow)
Security: 5.00
Corp: Fink Operations
Alliance: Eternal Syndicate
Faction: None
Ship: Bhaalgorn
Weapon: Mega Pulse Laser II
Damage Done: 10161

Name: subgranules
Security: -1.2
Corp: Murientor Tribe
Alliance: Defiant Legacy
Faction: Minmatar Republic
Ship: Rattlesnake
Weapon: Ammatar Navy Heavy Nosferatu
Damage Done: 0

Destroyed items:

Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile, Qty: 1500 (Cargo)
Valkyrie SW-600, Qty: 5 (Drone Bay)
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Federation Navy 1MN Afterburner
Hobgoblin II, Qty: 5 (Drone Bay)
Centii A-Type Adaptive Nano Plating
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Khanid Navy Ballistic Control System
Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer
ECCM - Radar II
Nova Fury Heavy Missile, Qty: 1500 (Cargo)
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Scourge Fury Heavy Missile, Qty: 1500 (Cargo)
Scourge Fury Heavy Missile, Qty: 32
Centum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Heavy Missile Launcher II
True Sansha Stasis Webifier
Medium Nanobot Accelerator II

Dropped items:

Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Khanid Navy Ballistic Control System
True Sansha Medium Energy Neutralizer
Inferno Fury Heavy Missile, Qty: 31
Nova Fury Heavy Missile, Qty: 31
True Sansha Medium Nosferatu
Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile, Qty: 31
Inferno Fury Heavy Missile, Qty: 1500 (Cargo)


Id love a 1 vs 1 friend but i'll only fight you on tranq so i guess i wont be getting one...

1mn burner on a vangel? so either its fake or hes an idiot too.

You still dont know how to fit ships. You put two noses on a neuting ship "made to kill sub-bs ships and support ships and interceptors" good luck having cap friend. That and no prop mod and no cap booster make you still an idiot.
Freezehunter
#113 - 2012-07-29 13:26:47 UTC
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Freezehunter wrote:
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Do it on TQ and maybe we'll care about how average you are at PvP.


Shut up 2012 miner corp carebear.

I can't hear you over the sound of me being a 2007 PVE carebear.

:P

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Shaidar+Hussan

Worst thing is, I really am a care bear. And I still solo stuff more than you.


Well, I care about my SS.

Inappropriate signature, CCP Phantom.
Versuvius Marii
Browncoats of Persephone
Ironworks Coalition
#114 - 2012-07-29 14:41:35 UTC
Freezehunter wrote:
In case you "leet pvpers" didn't notice, my setup was made to kill sub-bs ships and support ships and interceptors, the guy caught me in a belt.

And you lost to something that was a BS. With your sub-BS fitting.
On Sisi.
You're complaining that you weren't able to get out in time before the big, ponderous slow battleship somehow got a target lock on you and pointed you.
Oh dear, this is quite an embarrassing situation for you isn't it?


Face facts man, the reason you lost is because you're quite literally the worst pilot to ever undock in a faction BS. Cry about ASB all you want; all you had to do was outlast his boosters before nailing him. But it seems you didn't do your homework properly when it comes to these "overpowered modules" so it's your own fault.

Also, who gives a crap about Sisi. You're taking the test server of a game based on internet spaceships waaaaay too seriously.

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Shereza
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#115 - 2012-07-29 14:53:17 UTC
Freezehunter wrote:
So, I just had a test fight on SiSi.

It was a 1 v 1 fight versus a RATTLESNAKE in a BHAALGORN and I LOST.

My Bhaalgorn had 250 K EHP, 850 gun + 200 drone DPS, dual web, dual NOS, one neutralizer, one tracking computer with tracking scripts, one target painter, one warp scrambler and 4 T2 pulses with COnflagration L crystals.

The other guy had a generic mission carebear **** fit like all rattlesnakes do, the typical super passive+crap boring drones and pathetic 150 dps cruise missiles setup.

I got the guy into 5% shield FIVE ******* TIMES IN A ROW and he always bounced right up back to 70-100% in a few short seconds.

If this was a TQ fight I would have been ******* pissed for losing a Bhallgorn to a **** fit mission rattlesnake with two bullshit overpowered mods on it.

Any word on when the F you intend to NERF the ASB or at least limit the son of a ***** to ONE per ship, CCP?

The other day I had this guy in a MERLIN tank SIX GUYS in CA 1 in PVH for 8 consecutive minutes using ASB.

No seriously, when are you nerfing that ****?

If you're going to leave it like that, at least make armor repairers or armor plates repair armor passively when inactive and work like an ASB when activated.

Seriously CCP, ASB is retardedly OP right now.



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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#116 - 2012-07-29 16:00:29 UTC
Keep it on topic. Thank you.

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Senior Lead

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Interstellar Services Department
Freezehunter
#117 - 2012-07-29 16:10:02 UTC
Sirinda wrote:
This thread is entertaining.


Of course it is.

I made it didn't I?

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Pipa Porto
#118 - 2012-07-29 18:13:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Pipa Porto
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:
Keep it on topic. Thank you.


OP Just claimed that the topic is Trolling, not his whining about SISI PvP.

Gas thread, Ban OP.


Freezehunter wrote:
By the way, you all got trolled, ASB is just fine.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

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Freezehunter
#119 - 2012-07-29 18:23:10 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:
Keep it on topic. Thank you.


OP Just claimed that the topic is Trolling, not his whining about SISI PvP.

Gas thread, Ban OP.


Freezehunter wrote:
By the way, you all got trolled, ASB is just fine.


Bringing you quality trolling since 1998.
You're welcome.

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Pipa Porto
#120 - 2012-07-29 18:30:12 UTC
Freezehunter wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:
Keep it on topic. Thank you.


OP Just claimed that the topic is Trolling, not his whining about SISI PvP.

Gas thread, Ban OP.


Freezehunter wrote:
By the way, you all got trolled, ASB is just fine.


Bringing you quality trolling since 1998.
You're welcome.


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