Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Right now a 1 or 10 man corporation can take on a 1000 man corporation and that corporation can't do ****, it simply has to sit there and take it. It has to fight when the attacker wants to, and it has to be on guard at all times.

It also has serious implications for the defender, opposed to the attacker. Since the defenders are often main characters and moneymaking characters while the attackers are dedicated PVP characters. It is in the defenders best interests,

The solution on the other hand is simple:
* Add a -5% debuff to all stats (velocity, shield boost, production speed, shield, repairs, resistances, the works) to player Corporations if they do not have a Corporations Logistics Outpost. (Debuff because you don't want to add extra buffs in to the game or force people to be in a corp)
* Add a Corporation Logistics Outpost. Recuireing a one time purchase, at least until it gets destroyed. Removing this debuff.
* This Logistics Outpost would have to be placed somewhere (anywhere) in the same system as the Corporation Office is located.
* For a corporations under 50 characters, they can use a "Small" station costing around 50-75m. Corporations under 250 can use a "Medium" station, costing around 250-300 millions. Corporations under 750 can use a Large station, costing around 750-1000 millions, and corporations with voer 750 people would have to use an Extra Large one, costing around 2 billions.
* The Logistics Station is also responcible for Corporation Taxes, so if you do not one you can not claim or adjust taxes and the tax will be set to the standard 11% of the NPC corporations for as long as you don't, and the Tax ISK will be "lost". In other words if you do not have a logistics station the corporation as a whole will loose 11% of it's income.

These stations would all have a "Window of Attack" that could be freely configured by the CEO/President:
* The small one would have a 2 hour Window each day. Because a 5 man corporation can not be expected to be online 24/7.
* The medium one would have a 4 hour window each day. Medium corporations might be EU only, US only, Rus Only and so on so they should not be expected to defend it around the clock.
* The large one would have an 8 hour window each day, 250 people should be able to cover that much.
* The extra large one would be open to attack 24\7.

Now here comes the punchline:
If an attackers station is destroyed, he will have 24 hours to put up a new one, or the war will end! And the defender will be listed as the victor.
If a defenders station is destroyed, he will simply have to put up a new one or deal with the 5% debuff. The attacker will only be listed as the victor if the defender surrenders.

This way you will empower the defending Corporations with a way to win, to end the war and move on with their lives. Or make life harder for the attacker in general. And make sure that if he simply sits in a starbase and refuses to come out and fight, he will either loose money or loose the war within 24 hours.

The corporation headquarters would also serve as a starbase where you can gather up or go AFK, same as POS. And it will not recuire fuel (solar powered).

You need to read up on what exactly the word 'Simple' means.

You can kill them, yes. But you can't end the war, which means you get blocked out of groups/incursions, pugs won't want to team with you, you're always at risk of beeing randomly attacked and so on. That means even if you kill them 100 times for every time they kill you, you're still left with the short end of the stick.

As an attacker, having the war last longer is a good thing, it gives you more bang for the buck, you get to kill more and you get to cause more havoc.

As a defender, a war is a serious inconvenience. So you want to fight as hard as possible, you want to crush the attacker to the ground and mutilate his corpse. And you want to end it as quickly as possible while having kicked as much ass as possible.

All this does, is to empower the defending corporation with a way of winning the war and moving on with their lives. It also makes wars more intense and you actually have to go out and fight them instead of covering in your starbase and beeing completely comfortable and safe.

I'd like to see people penalized for starting a war and loosing it. If they do not have the backbone to defend their Logistics bases, they loose.

These things already exist. They're called "infrastructure hubs" and "territory claim units".

If you're talking about highsec, highsec was designed as a casual-friendly area where people can fight each other just because they want to, without having to worry about who "wins" or "loses". If you want to fight a war which has an actual impact, come to lowsec FW or to nullsec sov game. If your 10 man corp really can take on a 1000 man organization, you shouldn't have any problem finding friends.

So many retards that don't bother to read the thread. I'm all for this. All it serves to do is to raise the stakes! It provides more incentives to surrender (rather then wait out the war) as well as providing a way of fighting back.

I mean what the **** could be better then forcing both the attacker AND the defender to come out and play?!?!?!?!

I'm not really sure what you're worried about given that your corporation can't actually have war declared on them.

Yes we did, and I'll say here the exact same thing that I said there: so what you're saying is, that this one person is better than your 1000-man alliance?

I must have missed the "simple" part.

This sounds suspiciously like another "I wanna be completely safe in high sec" thread..