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ASB is BULL.

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Freezehunter
#1 - 2012-07-29 00:49:58 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
So, I just had a test fight on SiSi.

It was a 1 v 1 fight versus a RATTLESNAKE in a BHAALGORN and I LOST.

My Bhaalgorn had 250 K EHP, 850 gun + 200 drone DPS, dual web, dual NOS, one neutralizer, one tracking computer with tracking scripts, one target painter, one warp scrambler and 4 T2 pulses with COnflagration L crystals.

The other guy had a generic mission carebear fit like all rattlesnakes do, the typical super passive+crap boring drones and pathetic 150 dps cruise missiles setup.

I got the guy into 5% shield FIVE TIMES IN A ROW and he always bounced right up back to 70-100% in a few short seconds.

If this was a TQ fight I would have been pissed for losing a Bhaalgorn to a badly fit mission rattlesnake with two overpowered mods on it.

Any word on when you intend to NERF the ASB or at least limit the son of a ***** to ONE per ship, CCP?

The other day I had this guy in a MERLIN tank SIX GUYS in CA 1 in PVH for 8 consecutive minutes using ASB.

No seriously, when are you nerfing that?

If you're going to leave it like that, at least make armor repairers or armor plates repair armor passively when inactive and work like an ASB when activated.

Seriously CCP, ASB is OP right now.

Ideas for nerf:

1) Allow only one per ship.
OR
2) Remove shield passive recharge when you have ASB installed.
OR
3) Increase cooldown by one minute for every new ASB installed.
OR
4) Restrict certain item sizes to ships of that size and over. (AKA you can only have an XL shield booster or ASB on a battleship, you can however choose to use mediums, larges or smalls. On BCs the max would be large. On Cruisers it would be medium. On frigates it would be small.)
OR
5) A mix between 1) and 2) and/or 3) or a mix between 3) and 4), or any variation that makes sense from a balancing standpoint.

Come on CCP, what happened to your balancing lately, it's like you always decide to make a change and either exagerate it to hell (ASB) or make it almost completely useless and broken and pre-nerfed (like the new crap armor resistance). It's as if the guy whose job is to balance **** in this MMO only plays FPS games or something, and has no clue how to do it right. Either that or we're being Dev trolled... again.

Inappropriate signature, CCP Phantom.

Suddenly Forums ForumKings
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-07-29 00:50:54 UTC
u mad bro?
Adrenalinemax
Lap Dancers
Brothers of Tangra
#3 - 2012-07-29 00:51:46 UTC
Holy Crap, lemme get a 55 gallon drum, your tear ducts are in overload
Sang-in Tiers
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2012-07-29 00:55:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Sang-in Tiers
Yea well Amarr stuff sucks, its as simple as that. Laser suck, armor tanking sucks. End of.
Xearal
Dead's Prostitutes
The Initiative.
#5 - 2012-07-29 00:56:56 UTC
News just in.. prices for tears plummet as massive new ASB Tear deposits are overflowing the market.

Does railgun ammunition come in Hollow Point?

Baikur
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-07-29 00:56:58 UTC
Adrenalinemax wrote:
Holy Crap, lemme get a 55 gallon drum, your tear ducts are in overload


I hate when people make comments like that, but that was actually funny.
Freezehunter
#7 - 2012-07-29 00:57:34 UTC
Xearal wrote:
News just in.. prices for tears plummet as massive new ASB Tear deposits are overflowing the market.


I thought that was Cobalt.

Inappropriate signature, CCP Phantom.

Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
#8 - 2012-07-29 01:05:10 UTC
>>>> SHOCKER <<<<

>>>> SHOCKER <<<<

>>>> SHOCKER <<<<


1v1 PVP in EVE is not balanced?!?!?

I DEMAND CCP BALANCE THE GAME SO EVERY SHIP IS VIABLE AGAINST EVERY OTHER SHIP IN PVP!

Badgers should stand a reasonable chance of defeating Tornadoes.

Now with 100% less Troll.

snake pies
Dixon Cox Butte Preservation Society
#9 - 2012-07-29 01:06:00 UTC
ASB ships are not prevalent like Dramiels were before the nerf or how Thrashers are now after the boost. ASB are still very rarely used and therefore cannot be an overpowered mod, else everyone would be using them.

The more likely scenario is that you don't know how to defeat them. Well I'm not going to tell you, but all ASB ships that faced me are dead. Eve is not a 1vs1 game.
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#10 - 2012-07-29 01:08:57 UTC
Freezehunter wrote:
The other day I had this guy in a MERLIN tank SIX GUYS in CA 1 in PVH for 8 consecutive minutes using ASB.


Hahahaha, last night on TQ I tanked a Talos, Drake, and Falcon with my Harpy for several minutes until I managed to lose them in the asteroid belt and warp off.

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.

Ohh Yeah
Jerkasaurus Wrecks Inc.
Sedition.
#11 - 2012-07-29 01:10:21 UTC
Freezehunter wrote:
If this was a TQ fight


ok let's all just take a step back here
Cameron Cahill
Deaths Consortium
Pandemic Horde
#12 - 2012-07-29 01:12:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Cameron Cahill
So let me get this straight.

You're pissed at loosing a shitfit bhaal to a well tanked rattlesnake while flying solo.

On sisi.

I have some advice you should follow friend, before you start commenting on the state of mods in eve:

1) Grow some balls and fight on tranq
2) Learn to fit ships.
3) Don't go crying to CCP if you loose a fight. It won't work and just makes you look pathetic.
4) Don't fly what you cant afford to loose (emotionally as well as financially)
Otto Weston
Pod Goo Extraction Agency
#13 - 2012-07-29 01:13:52 UTC
Obvious weakness of ASB's is obvious.... therefore obvious PVP ****** OP is obvious :D
Everything's Air Droppable at least once.
Cameron Cahill
Deaths Consortium
Pandemic Horde
#14 - 2012-07-29 01:20:49 UTC
also OP his "pathetic 150 dps **** fit" is apparently better than yours. You even have the lossmail to prove it.
Cameron Cahill
Deaths Consortium
Pandemic Horde
#15 - 2012-07-29 01:23:34 UTC
Sang-in Tiers wrote:
Yea well Amarr stuff sucks, its as simple as that. Laser suck, armor tanking sucks. End of.


Show me a bs with 90k raw shields that does 600 dps before drones at 50k with full damage 90% of the time. Might believe you then.
Pipa Porto
#16 - 2012-07-29 01:33:39 UTC
Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote:
u mad bro?


About SISI, no less.

By the way, @OP, the ASB is the direct counter to Neuts (which is the Bhaalgorn's specialty). And you should have been able to turn off his hardeners at the very least.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto

Pipa Porto
#17 - 2012-07-29 01:35:19 UTC
Tom Gerard wrote:
Badgers should stand a reasonable chance of defeating Tornadoes.


Pretty sure they already do. A Battlebadger can almost certainly stay under the Nado's 1400s if it gets the right warpin.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto

Freezehunter
#18 - 2012-07-29 01:35:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Freezehunter
Cameron Cahill wrote:
So let me get this straight.

You're pissed at loosing a shitfit bhaal to a well tanked rattlesnake while flying solo.

On sisi.

I have some advice you should follow friend, before you start commenting on the state of mods in eve:

1) Grow some balls and fight on tranq
2) Learn to fit ships.
3) Don't go crying to CCP if you loose a fight. It won't work and just makes you look pathetic.
4) Don't fly what you cant afford to loose (emotionally as well as financially)


How about you shove your advice up your ass?

Judging by your killboard all you do is fly in drake swarm fleets.

Don't give PVP advice when all you do is blob in a drake and count on 50 fleetmates to kill your enemies.

Try giving advice when you use armor tanks, buffers, ECM, painters, webs, scramblers, neutralizers, nosferatus, cap micromanagement, speed tanks and turrets, and you know how to use all the info available on your screen, like transversal, radial and Angular velocity indicator, not the most noob PVP friendly ship in the game whose only skill requirement is pressing F1.

And don't dare tell me the guy had a "better setup" when all he basically had to do to kill me was activate his drones (which I popped BTW), turn on his scrambler and cruise launchers and be semi AFK while coming back every 40 seconds to activate his overpowered dual ASB bullshit OP mods, okay?

Oh, and before I popped, a Vangel and Vagabond warped in and started attacking me as well, I blew them both up.

Skill wise, i would have defeated ALL of them 3 vs 1 no problem, bullshit OP mod-wise, the ASB noob won.

Eve ******* sucks compared to how it was in 2007 I swear, WAY more fun and player skill oriented back then.

Inappropriate signature, CCP Phantom.

Zagdul
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-07-29 01:37:05 UTC
Ground Floor.


Dual Pane idea: Click!

CCP Please Implement

YuuKnow
The Scope
#20 - 2012-07-29 01:37:30 UTC  |  Edited by: YuuKnow
Yeah, I'm not sure what void the ASB was meant to fill. Shield tanking already had enough advantages to armor tanking before this was introduced. No clue what the devs were thinking about this one... or if they were thinking at all.

yk
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