EVE General Discussion

Only if you never buy T2, Meta, or Faction gear. Or anything requiring PI. Or anything manufactured (amortized Blueprint cost).

tech is being nerfed too so prices will still come down. i have no idea how long the tech cartel has around, but a year ago trit was half of what it is now, so were hulk prices, they've both gone up at similar rates.

don't forget if people don't have isk to spend, demand goes down, as do prices. people can't spend what they don't have.

I really hope you aren't suggesting that mineral prices have any real impact on T2 production.

You make a few valid points, but I think you're missing part of the flip-side too, as its not as if the gankers are there are exclusively ganking the bots, they are quite happy to take out normal players too since their local-tears are far more tasty than the silent bot that sits patiently waiting to be podded afterwards.

Remember that with these changes, the Mackinaw doesn't become a god-immune ship, it just means its going to cost more than a 3M ISK Blaster Catalyst to blow it up, maybe a Blaster Thorax? or Talos?, I think thats fair.

also hulk resists have been lowered, looks like ganker's tears work as well as miner's tears.

If you claim that all it will take to bust one of the 'new' Mackinaws is a 'Thorax or a Talos', you are either lying or deluded.

A 1 billion isk Vindicator can't gank the new barges either.

Official bet: I will give you 1 billion if within 6 months from the patch trit goes to 1 ISK pu (Jita IV price).

If it does not, you will give me 1 billion instead.

Chribba or Grendell will be used to hold my and your billion in the mean time.

Deal?

An Cargo Hulk (weaker tank than unfit) requires a T2 Fit Catalyst to Solo, costing 15m ISK.

The new Mack is going to have a 60k EHP tank. That will take 5 T2 fit Catalysts at a cost of 75m ISK.

Just a friendly reminder to all my mining friends that ganking and hulkageddon has almost no impact on the prices of minerals. That amounts mined everyday would require 10's of thousands of hulks to be ganked everyday, and even that is assuming the miner doesn't immediately reship and get back at it.

The recent increase in minerals is infact to due changes with old loot mechanics, that allowed the vast majority of minerals to come from mission runners and gun miners. Now that this has been rectified, the decreased supply has caused prices to jump, and prices are likely to remain very high for the near future.

I know Helicity and the goonies like to pretend that they're responsible for these changes, but this 'crusade' against 'bots' really has no effect other then making funny whine threads on the forums. A bot will not unsub because he was ganked. A player might but that's still unlikely. He will just reship into a genuine OTEC Hulk and get right back atter'.

Miners aren't some rodent that needs to be 'culled' to keep prices in check. This is just part of the hate propaganda designed to make ganking seem more appealing to your average miner. But don't be fooled, they're not ganking for your benefit, but for they're own.

These buffs are a necessary reaction to the 'emergent gameplay' everyone speaks so highly about. A miner is the only ship that has to give up every free slot if it wants to tank 'effectively' and even then alot of gankers will see a tank as challenge rather than a deterrent. The changes allows for more flexibility in fitting, gives a purpose to the other 5 mining ships, and I can almost guarantee is the first step towards an entire overhaul of industry/harvesting.

There will still be dumb miners, and now you can confidently tell them to HTFU or GTFO with a straight face - instead of the garbage that's spewed now (Why didn't you use every slot to tank and have and Orca with links and RR and have a webbing alt so you could stay aligned???)