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people crying about FW

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Esk Esme
Simply Pleasure inc
#1 - 2012-07-27 10:33:34 UTC
lol

ok bit about me ive played eve for 6-7 years have done nerly everything in eve from fc'ing large fleets to fc'ing pierate gangs and roams

have lived in 0.0 for many years and been pirate for many years have done empire ganks / invention / 0.0 plexing /lvl4 emp missions / mineing / living in whs / pi / moon mineing im what your call a gypse of eve i pay my sub i play my way

thing iv noticed abut fw is that every1 can get a share of the wealth were as in 0.0 for exsample only the select few get the major isk from moon's and sh!t

ok i see alot ppl crying about min fw lmfao they have majoraty system controll why shouldnt they make cash doesnt matter how they got majorty controll they have it, the majorty system controll will change hands at some point nothing in eve lasts for ever

out of my experiance in eve lo-sec is most dangaras place in eve 0.0 is a nap fest of over bloted allainces but in lo-sec you have a multple of factors that make it crazy thats y i live in lo-sec and love it

but for me nothing rong with FW its about time ccp give a little bit of qualty isk to the avrage player and tbh fw isk is nothing compared to what allainces have made from moon goo wouldnt even make a dent tbh

so i say gl to min fw millitia milk it what it lasts coz it will flip at some stage same goes for caldari

my spelling sux sue me





Amymuffmuff
Hostile.
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#2 - 2012-07-27 10:43:26 UTC
who's crying? other than moar tears of course.

we just want to try and make it better :)

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Pinky Feldman
Amarrian Vengeance
Ragequit Cancel Sub
#3 - 2012-07-27 10:49:59 UTC
Confirmed that after reading that post I am crying and still not quite sure what I read.
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#4 - 2012-07-27 11:00:10 UTC
FW has really nothing to offer for older players, but for buddy alts it is excellent grinding zone, one alt can make couple billions isk / day so personally i am farming about 10b isk / day without any effort or risk.

put alts in plexes, play round WoT, repeat. could not be easier.
Generals4
#5 - 2012-07-27 11:04:53 UTC
Esk Esme wrote:
lol

ok bit about me ive played eve for 6-7 years have done nerly everything in eve from fc'ing large fleets to fc'ing pierate gangs and roams

have lived in 0.0 for many years and been pirate for many years have done empire ganks / invention / 0.0 plexing /lvl4 emp missions / mineing / living in whs / pi / moon mineing im what your call a gypse of eve i pay my sub i play my way

thing iv noticed abut fw is that every1 can get a share of the wealth were as in 0.0 for exsample only the select few get the major isk from moon's and sh!t

ok i see alot ppl crying about min fw lmfao they have majoraty system controll why shouldnt they make cash doesnt matter how they got majorty controll they have it, the majorty system controll will change hands at some point nothing in eve lasts for ever

out of my experiance in eve lo-sec is most dangaras place in eve 0.0 is a nap fest of over bloted allainces but in lo-sec you have a multple of factors that make it crazy thats y i live in lo-sec and love it

but for me nothing rong with FW its about time ccp give a little bit of qualty isk to the avrage player and tbh fw isk is nothing compared to what allainces have made from moon goo wouldnt even make a dent tbh

so i say gl to min fw millitia milk it what it lasts coz it will flip at some stage same goes for caldari

my spelling sux sue me







The reason why we want FW to be fixed is because right now it is a broken farm. The "winners" make way too many isks and the losers way too little due to the coefficients which are over the top. And on top of that the whole plexing mechanism needs an overhaul. As a caldari i can make quite some iskies and it doesn't prevent me to say FW is broken.

Don't confuse criticism with "whining".

_-Death is nothing, but to live defeated and inglorious is to die daily. _

Tuch Mei
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-07-27 12:22:39 UTC
Please, have some respect for those who have to read this, you acknowledge the bad spelling, so use google and fix that ****.
Zicon Shak'ra
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-07-27 12:54:03 UTC
Pinky Feldman wrote:
Confirmed that after reading that post I am crying and still not quite sure what I read.


At least you will pee less now.

Wormholes are cool, m'kay?

X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#8 - 2012-07-27 13:35:38 UTC
Bad Messenger wrote:
put alts in plexes, play round WoT, repeat. could not be easier.

Set up moon goo op, play multiple rounds of WoT, go offline for a week long vacation, make billions of isk.
Lexmana
#9 - 2012-07-27 13:49:18 UTC
Crying about crying is even worse. Especially clueless crying.
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Crouching Woman Hidden Cucumber
#10 - 2012-07-27 13:54:11 UTC
Bad Messenger wrote:
FW has really nothing to offer for older players, but for buddy alts it is excellent grinding zone, one alt can make couple billions isk / day so personally i am farming about 10b isk / day without any effort or risk.

put alts in plexes, play round WoT, repeat. could not be easier.


So you are running 4/5 alts and claim its no effort?
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#11 - 2012-07-27 14:37:31 UTC
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 wrote:
Bad Messenger wrote:
FW has really nothing to offer for older players, but for buddy alts it is excellent grinding zone, one alt can make couple billions isk / day so personally i am farming about 10b isk / day without any effort or risk.

put alts in plexes, play round WoT, repeat. could not be easier.


So you are running 4/5 alts and claim its no effort?


Not really effort, i usually play with several accounts anyway
Deen Wispa
Sheriff.
Caldari Tactical Operations Command
#12 - 2012-07-27 17:58:50 UTC
No one complains louder than FW people. No one.

High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve .

Rezig Huruta
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2012-07-27 18:05:37 UTC
Deen Wispa wrote:
No one complains louder than FW people. No one.


I'm not so sure about that. The crying from both gankers and hi-sec miners is a virtual cacophony of cries.
Salicaz
Verrimus Caelum
#14 - 2012-07-27 18:09:36 UTC
"Having lived in null for years and knowing **** all about FW here is my uninformed opinon: herpaderp flerp lolz"
Mutnin
SQUIDS.
#15 - 2012-07-27 18:35:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Mutnin
Esk Esme wrote:
lol

ok bit about me ive played eve for 6-7 years have done nerly everything in eve from fc'ing large fleets to fc'ing pierate gangs and roams

have lived in 0.0 for many years and been pirate for many years have done empire ganks / invention / 0.0 plexing /lvl4 emp missions / mineing / living in whs / pi / moon mineing im what your call a gypse of eve i pay my sub i play my way

thing iv noticed abut fw is that every1 can get a share of the wealth were as in 0.0 for exsample only the select few get the major isk from moon's and sh!t

ok i see alot ppl crying about min fw lmfao they have majoraty system controll why shouldnt they make cash doesnt matter how they got majorty controll they have it, the majorty system controll will change hands at some point nothing in eve lasts for ever

out of my experiance in eve lo-sec is most dangaras place in eve 0.0 is a nap fest of over bloted allainces but in lo-sec you have a multple of factors that make it crazy thats y i live in lo-sec and love it

but for me nothing rong with FW its about time ccp give a little bit of qualty isk to the avrage player and tbh fw isk is nothing compared to what allainces have made from moon goo wouldnt even make a dent tbh

so i say gl to min fw millitia milk it what it lasts coz it will flip at some stage same goes for caldari

my spelling sux sue me









The complaints you see about Minmatar & their tier V is largely due to the fact they have an unfair advantage in being able to hit tier V much easier than any other Militia.

Minmatar holds 66 systems with Amarr having 3 last I looked. This gives them ability to do LP dumps at will to hit tier V by only holding 66 systems. Meanwhile Caldari for example holds 62 or 63 systems last I looked and we have held up to 65-66 at any given time. Yet holding the same amount of systems as Minmatar we still need and additional 20 systems roughly to be able to hit tier V.

Now lets look at the flip side, lets say Amarr started pushing back and taking systems. They would also only be able to get to tier 4 by holding roughly 60 systems. Amarr would likely need about 65-68 systems to hit tier V.

Meaning every faction "except" Mimatar is required to hold between 65-85 systems in order to get to tier V but Minmatar can do it holding roughly 60-63. The reason for this is the war zone control is based on a percentage of systems being held to control the war zone and CCP didn't start each faction with a level playing field when they created FW.

For what ever reason, when CCP set up FW, they gave Caldari & Galentte roughly 50 systems each, meaning both sides need to hold roughly 80 systems in order to hit tier V under the new system.

Meanwhile on the Minmatar & Amarr war front CCP gave Amarr only 30 systems while giving Minmatar 40 I think it was. This means by way of system control to reach tier V, Minmatar have it much easier than any other faction in the game.

TL:Dr Minmatar have it much easier than any other faction.
Zea'dal
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2012-07-27 18:43:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Zea'dal
When there's no punctuation, I tend to read it as fast as I can in one breath. This causes me to lose attention in the actual comprehensive part of the reading.

You claim to have played EVE for 6 years. You must be the youngest person to have ever played EVE because your writing skills are equivalent to a 4 year old's. Pirate
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#17 - 2012-07-27 19:33:44 UTC
With a few notable exceptions ccp has done a fine job with faction war.

I think allot of the people who complain about too much isk really haven't pvped as much as they should. Ships and modules cost allot of isk these days.

I think the actual pay for faction war - tier ssytem and no pay for defensive plexing - makes sense. Over time I think people in the militia will figure this out.

There are some tweaks that need to happen though. They should make the plexing part of faction war a pvp activity. They can leave the missions for pve-ers I don't mind. But the actualy occupancy should be a pvp game or its really pretty silly.

I think that is what is on the agenda for winter.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815

Dynast
Room for Improvement
Good Sax
#18 - 2012-07-27 21:35:39 UTC
Bad Messenger wrote:
FW has really nothing to offer for older players,

Except PvP.
Nethrun
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-07-27 23:02:30 UTC
Bad Messenger wrote:
FW has really nothing to offer for older players, but for buddy alts it is excellent grinding zone, one alt can make couple billions isk / day so personally i am farming about 10b isk / day without any effort or risk.

put alts in plexes, play round WoT, repeat. could not be easier.


your making 10bil / day with how many alts?
Zero Conscience
Neurotoxin Control
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
#20 - 2012-07-28 00:37:56 UTC
Pepole are making alts just to afk/reap billions of ISKin a very short timespan. Almost the definition of broken imo.
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