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Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1201 - 2012-07-27 10:09:48 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
As opposed to miners being told "bring RR" and flat-out refusing to invest any more effort into their gameplay?


Cap stable Scimi + Mack... Have to think about that...
Mag's
Azn Empire
#1202 - 2012-07-27 10:11:58 UTC
In a nut shell. (Me, from another thread)

Miners were told to HTFU and adapt, they seemingly couldn't do that. So CCP held their hand and moved the goal posts for them.

Some have taken exception to this, as it's not in the spirit of Eve. But many of us know, that most miners will still not fit for anything but maximum yield. So gankers will once again adapt and miners will still DIAF and whine about it.

Cool

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marVLs
#1203 - 2012-07-27 10:14:04 UTC
Still pussy gankers complain about that they can't kill not moving, defenseless ships? Pathetic

BTW nice changes CCP Cool
Ohanka
#1204 - 2012-07-27 10:14:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Ohanka
Mag's wrote:
In a nut shell. (Me, from another thread)

Miners were told to HTFU and adapt, they seemingly couldn't do that. So CCP held their hand and moved the goal posts for them.

Some have taken exception to this, as it's not in the spirit of Eve. But many of us know, that most miners will still not fit for anything but maximum yield. So gankers will once again adapt and miners will still DIAF and whine about it.

Cool


Again, you are wrong, as usual. Don't you ever get tired of being wrong all the time?

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Pipa Porto
#1205 - 2012-07-27 10:18:38 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Richard Desturned wrote:
As opposed to miners being told "bring RR" and flat-out refusing to invest any more effort into their gameplay?


Cap stable Scimi + Mack... Have to think about that...


Last time we ran into this, you decided you'd gank the Scimi with two Rail Nados at 250km o.0

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Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#1206 - 2012-07-27 10:19:45 UTC
Ohanka wrote:
Again, you are wrong, as usual. Don't you ever get tired of being wrong all the time?


You're in SMA, you can't be suicide ganked in nullsec where your alliance owns space, silly.

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Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1207 - 2012-07-27 10:20:59 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
Last time we ran into this, you decided you'd gank the Scimi with two Rail Nados at 250km o.0


Nagas, Nagas.

It's possible.
Ohanka
#1208 - 2012-07-27 10:22:22 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
Ohanka wrote:
Again, you are wrong, as usual. Don't you ever get tired of being wrong all the time?


You're in SMA, you can't be suicide ganked in nullsec where your alliance owns space, silly.


I dunno, Awoxing as always seemed somewhat suicidal to me.

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Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#1209 - 2012-07-27 10:23:00 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Last time we ran into this, you decided you'd gank the Scimi with two Rail Nados at 250km o.0


Nagas, Nagas.

It's possible.


"it's possible so everyone does it"

this is what you believe

it is wrong, but you continuously convince yourself that it is true

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Pipa Porto
#1210 - 2012-07-27 10:23:03 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Last time we ran into this, you decided you'd gank the Scimi with two Rail Nados at 250km o.0


Nagas, Nagas.

It's possible.


Whoops, there's a typo. Nados on the brain.

2 Rail Nagas at 250km cannot Suicide Gank any reasonably fit Scimitar.

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Manar Detri
#1211 - 2012-07-27 10:28:06 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
Manar Detri wrote:
The tears are strong in this one. Nothings set in stone and you cry like a baby already.


I don't care if the finer points aren't yet set in stone. Even if it isn't implemented, it's indicative of CCP trying to convince themselves that they are not "Trammelizing" the game because you "can still technically engage somebody in hisec but we want to discourage it as much as possible."

Manar Detri wrote:
That aside, it was plain stupid that you can gank a mining ship with a few catalysts, even if it was tanked to hell and back.


It takes more than a few Catalysts to gank a mining ship in 0.7 space and above. In 0.8 and above, you will need alpha.


Manar Detri wrote:
You do know that the amoutn of tank you can fit in a mining ship is very little.


https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16196592/Hulk%20-%20catalyst%20tanked.jpg

Manar Detri wrote:
You are basicly crying that you no longer can kill something with just one ship, you actually need some more team effort in it. Funny right, team effort in an mmo, must come as a shocker.


As opposed to miners being told "bring RR" and flat-out refusing to invest any more effort into their gameplay?


Risk goes up the higher sec system you go ganknig, isn't that what you're always spouting anywho?

Now make real fit that doesn't use implants not possible to get into the system (genolutions, really..) And do remember, make it omni tank, that nado will use any type of ammo, just thinking "it's just always a catalyst" doesn't cut it.

Also what the hell are you talking about rr for ? RR does **** if you face volley weapons.
And really what the hells this about, you aren't whining about battleships having alot of ehp and being able to do what they're meant to do. If you're ganking something to an end, then you should be happier that it's atleast a bit harder and not just cake walk.

Now let's actually make the game better and take make it you can't jump to a cyno if within 15km of a station. Maybe then we'll be able to touch the invincible goon jf's that can't be caught, as they're actually uncatchable.
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1212 - 2012-07-27 10:28:29 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
2 Rail Nagas at 250km cannot Suicide Gank any reasonably fit Scimitar.


It's possible.

Typical Scimi has 14k EHP against kin/therm.
Ohanka
#1213 - 2012-07-27 10:33:04 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
2 Rail Nagas at 250km cannot Suicide Gank any reasonably fit Scimitar.


It's possible.

Typical Scimi has 14k EHP against kin/therm.


3 Rifters can destroy anything sub-capital in the game.

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Pipa Porto
#1214 - 2012-07-27 10:37:01 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
2 Rail Nagas at 250km cannot Suicide Gank any reasonably fit Scimitar.


It's possible.

Typical Scimi has 14k EHP against kin/therm.


My old fleet fit Scimi for Logi 4 (terrible, I know) has 22k EHP vs Spike (24k OH)

My new standard Scimi for Logi 5 has 24k (25.7k).

A smart one for HS doesn't need ECCM and will do fine with an AB instead of an MWD, so you can have 33.5k (37.7k).

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Manar Detri
#1215 - 2012-07-27 10:38:29 UTC
Actually to make this thing even clearer to you dear Richard Desturned. Every single argument you come up is garbage, you know why ? Because the alliance you are part of, goonswarm whined so long and hard that blapper titans got nerfed, just because you couldn't adapt to it.

You opened this can of whining worms, live with it.
Mr M
Sebiestor Tribe
#1216 - 2012-07-27 10:39:51 UTC
I didn't really bother to read this thread but I blame the ********** and their damned taxes.

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#1217 - 2012-07-27 10:40:10 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
DrSmegma wrote:
Excuse me. Did I miss anything? Is that actually going to be implemented?


Not to mention that the dudes shooting you can bring all the RR and ships they want, and you literally won't be able to RR yourself at all.

Piracy will still be possible, but it will simply be a full-time job that nobody will bother with. Or they'll figure something out and CCP will nerf that. vOv


Are you sure it's going to be implemented right like that, with no change?

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Ohanka
#1218 - 2012-07-27 10:40:49 UTC
Manar Detri wrote:
Actually to make this thing even clearer to you dear Richard Desturned. Every single argument you come up is garbage, you know why ? Because the alliance you are part of, goonswarm whined so long and hard that blapper titans got nerfed, just because you couldn't adapt to it.

You opened this can of whining worms, live with it.


You're garbage.

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#1219 - 2012-07-27 10:41:17 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Richard Desturned wrote:
As opposed to miners being told "bring RR" and flat-out refusing to invest any more effort into their gameplay?


Cap stable Scimi + Mack... Have to think about that...


Hi, my name is Alpha.

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Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#1220 - 2012-07-27 10:43:15 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Richard Desturned wrote:
As opposed to miners being told "bring RR" and flat-out refusing to invest any more effort into their gameplay?


Cap stable Scimi + Mack... Have to think about that...


Hi, my name is Alpha.


i see your glass is half empty

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