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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#21 - 2012-07-26 21:50:25 UTC
Eralona Vhanouris wrote:
I might eventually train for cloaky haulers, but an Orca would take months. It only takes a couple days to get an indy up to skill level 4.


Just suck it up and train into a cloaky hauler. At this point I won't move anything worth more than ~10mil in anything else. And not always because I really need the cloak; they just align faster and can be fit for any of my needs. As long as your maximum haul is less than a packaged cruiser (and you don't fly Minmatar) you're good to go.

For larger shipments, sure, try an Orca.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#22 - 2012-07-27 01:12:18 UTC
Mammoth can field a considerable tank and still push <6000M^3 without expanders.

[Mammoth, Tanky]

3x Medium Shield Extender II
2x Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Damage Control II
3x Reinforced Bulkheads II

3x Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

All skills 5
Eve HP 23k
Effective HP (EveHQ) 34k
Cargo >7000M^3

All Resists between 54 & 77%


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Celeste Taylor
Ruby Dynasty
#23 - 2012-07-27 03:16:48 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
If you're going to go for an officer fitted indy... don't, and buy a freighter alt. and a freighter.

You'll save isk.


I recently realized that you only need to train class freighter I if you are trained for a blockade runner and advanced spaceship command. I was under the assumption that it required some crazy capital skills. The Orca also is fairly easy to train, although I will need a month of training in all those mining skills to pilot one.
groundhunter
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#24 - 2012-07-27 06:16:50 UTC
Invul fields wont help if you get nearly instalocked

To avoid Tornados use this it can withstand 4 Nados hitting it

[Bustard, can take 4 nado hits]
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
EM Ward Amplifier II

Improved Cloaking Device II

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Cargohold Optimization I
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#25 - 2012-07-27 08:57:06 UTC
Celeste Taylor wrote:
Steve Ronuken wrote:
If you're going to go for an officer fitted indy... don't, and buy a freighter alt. and a freighter.

You'll save isk.


I recently realized that you only need to train class freighter I if you are trained for a blockade runner and advanced spaceship command. I was under the assumption that it required some crazy capital skills. The Orca also is fairly easy to train, although I will need a month of training in all those mining skills to pilot one.


Your racial freighter to 4 will take 47 days with a bad remap, and no implant. 2 +3 implants drops that by 7 days. a good remap will drop it further still. (someone else's racial freighter will take a few hours longer)

They're handy for running stuff round highsec in relative security, as long as you don't carry more than a billion or so in cargo (and make some insta undocks) ATK is, of course, safer than AFK, as you reduce the attack window by the crawl to gate. Only relatively safe, as some people I'm not going to name here (lets keep life interesting) run Freighter ganks for kicks, rather than profits.

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Adacia Calla
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2012-07-27 17:48:44 UTC
6 years I've yet to lose one of these:

23k EHP (EFT)
14,573m3 Cargohold @ Indy 5

[Mammoth, Basic]
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Damage Control II

Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Improved Cloaking Device II
Expanded Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I

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Dave Stark
#27 - 2012-07-27 17:49:31 UTC
Celeste Taylor wrote:
Steve Ronuken wrote:
If you're going to go for an officer fitted indy... don't, and buy a freighter alt. and a freighter.

You'll save isk.


I recently realized that you only need to train class freighter I if you are trained for a blockade runner and advanced spaceship command. I was under the assumption that it required some crazy capital skills. The Orca also is fairly easy to train, although I will need a month of training in all those mining skills to pilot one.


with the upcoming mining barge changes you might even be thankful for those mining skills at some point.
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