Warfare & Tactics

Yeah, it's pretty fooked. The ability to spike the warzone control at will and cash out is incredibly powerful and results in massive war chests. I'm sure it will get changed in a few weeks. Probably timed to coincide with Amarr getting enough systems to hit T5.

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Suck it up younglings.

You wanted these changes remember (LP for everything!), you legitimized the half-wits in charge at CCP by not screaming bloody murder with we hapless few after the FanFest.

One reaps what one sows.

PS: Being labelled Mistress Doom'n'Gloom doesn't feel nearly as bad as more and more of my "radical", "extreme", "defeatist" and "lol-RP-carebear" outcries are vindicated and then some .. now, off to bed to dream those sweet, sweet dreams that only come when ones ePeen is polished and sparkly like a gayass teen-bop vampire.

Again, kills are up all over low sec. Fights are up. Everybody who uses FW for fights is having a blast. +1 CCP.

This ^

+1 This new take on FW is awesome!

I would like to see some statistics on this. There was a big uptick in pvp in plexes for about the first 2weeks after inferno and the first 6 weeks after. But in my albeit limited experience the last 2 weeks have been really dry. At least in the amarr minmatar front.

The way its panning out looks interesting and potentially not broken. Currently gallente are poised to hit tier 4 and easily defending the systems we have that arnt already vulnerable to caldari attack.

However, when we take all the 40+ systems from caldari, those systems will soon be plexed back into caldari hands as that number of systems is well beyond gallente's capacity to defend. Then plexed back into gallente hands, repeat ad nauseam.

So the Gal/Cal warzone seems to be in a sort of equilibrium, even if it is swinging from one side to the other in terms of isk flow.

The systems stay vulnerable because in the current mechanic it makes sense to flip them all at once to maximise the income from it.

This is what i expect from the matar/amarr front eventually, unless changes are made to defensive plexing.

Viewers, revenue and the precious profitsssss also went up with changes to :insert name of sport: in the real world .. many sports are mere shadows of their former selves.
But for specificity; fights are up 'tis (or was) true but quality of said fights are down, kills may be up (haven't seen supporting numbers) but if so then I am willing to wager they are little more than ganks for the most part.
In short: Murder does not make one a warrior.

Where does the ISK for all that fighting come from if not from the mechanics/system being gamed to high heaven (solo-frig alts with enemy etc.) .. they broke it further while trying to fix it. The infinitely vulnerable state is just icing on that particular cake.

Because I forgot last night due to various fermented grains playing tricks on me:
If you care for more than lol-ganks and MOAR!-ISK then make yourself heard in the sticky threads in the Features & Ideas forum, not much available for discussion, since CCP obviously only reads rest of board in order to moderate it, they are all we have in the way of feedback options so make use of them (but stay on topic).

Yay were all important and stuffs.

You're right about there being a wide range of alliances in minmatar militia but that doesn't mean they are necessarily much bigger. We have quite a few alliances who are around but not so many in those alliance who actually take part in PVP. Though im not going to name names here *cough cough*.

You're also right about the fact we haven't lost much in numbers wise is just usual inactivity. I am surprised to see how much isk we killed in march with so little kills compared to last month where we killed a whole lot more.

Anyway personally i think our warzone is in a bit of a quiet period for pvp compared to what is used to be.

However relating to the topic at hand. Systems shouldnt give you LP after you made them vulnerable and you shouldn't be able to indefinitely plex them to push them even deeper into the vulnerable state. It just doesn't make sense to me. And this isn't me whining because i can't make LP from them because as you know the missions are the best way to make LP. And until you actually have enough systems vuln to get you to t4/5 then im sure we will stay this way. (or maybe enough ppl in the militia to help take them all at once)

i am looking forward to the time where the war picks up again anyway. bring on the pew pew!

P.S i think its going pretty good for us compared to late night considering they have twice as many numbers wise and there getting less than half as many kills.

i meant your less than double for us kills wise. we have 8k. you have 14k therefore less than half more.

even though my wording was off i knew what i meant :)

Bro, the Minmatar use Falcons just as much as we do. You've got team Nemski/Hate who stay permacloaked in Kam in nothing but Falcons throughout most of the day, and you guys even dropped a neutral Falcon alt on us earlier today. As far as the neut logi goes, even though we've dropped it on the field a few times we've only had to actually rep with it a handful of times. It lets us fight when we're outnumbered and even in the cases where we have numbers, it lets us drop a counter that isn't an obvious hard counter to whatever fleet the other guys that might have.

Cmon Vordak, you're better than that to be complaining that the use of game mechanics that are available for everyone to use and get dragged into the "they don't want fights, they just want ganks" arguement. We fight your always Loki boosted gangs without links of our own more often than not, which tends to result in a less than favorable result, but we don't complain about it because its just part of the game.

You guys fly loki-boosted nano-kitey stuff that excels at killing as much as it can and then running away before anyone can kill it, so I could also argue that you guys don't want fights either, but I don't because its all apart of EVE. Its really hard to pin down without Falcons to jam out anti-tackle or logi to keep your tackle/bait alive and i'll be one of the first people to say that you guys understand fly that style of gang very well. Just keep in mind our tactics are a response to the tactics that you guys use as well and we're not dumb enough to split our gang up and burn after your nano gang without an ace up our sleeve, flying against you guys for a month is enough to know you guys know what you're doing. If you wanted to do more than kill bads being bad and idiots, you wouldn't bring Cynabal/Tornado/Vaga gangs.