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Ludi Burek
The Player Haters Corp
#901 - 2012-07-26 23:34:22 UTC
One can only hope that this is a precursor to ice being removed from high sec Smile
DrSmegma
Smegma United
#902 - 2012-07-26 23:34:49 UTC
Can't political enemies just be deported? What?

Eve too complicated? Try Astrum Regatta.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#903 - 2012-07-26 23:38:14 UTC
DrSmegma wrote:
Can't political enemies just be deported? What?


No, they found more effective ways both in Nigeria and Syria.

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Ludi Burek
The Player Haters Corp
#904 - 2012-07-26 23:38:59 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:


That's why the dumb guy has his articles posted and praised on RL trading websites and works with a RL trader associate.


Yet is lacking creative and objective thinking to such an extent that it is painful to see.

"articles posted and praised on RL trading websites and works with a RL trader associate" does not qualify you as an expert on anything except writing articles to be posted and praised on RL trading websites and working with a RL trader associate".

Do you get that?
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#905 - 2012-07-26 23:50:27 UTC
Herr Hammer Draken wrote:
[...]

lol, WoW nice touch. Never played that title however. You but hurt?


Learn to basic-English too, if you're going to try to insult people in that language, person-who-is-not-Soundwave-whose-answer-is-therefore-irrelevant.

Next!

Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#906 - 2012-07-27 00:00:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Ludi Burek wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:


That's why the dumb guy has his articles posted and praised on RL trading websites and works with a RL trader associate.


Yet is lacking creative and objective thinking to such an extent that it is painful to see.

"articles posted and praised on RL trading websites and works with a RL trader associate" does not qualify you as an expert on anything except writing articles to be posted and praised on RL trading websites and working with a RL trader associate".

Do you get that?


You can always go check the last pages in my EvE trading thread and find screenshots of real trades being done, targets being called before they happened and so on. Or you could go on my own website and find the whole EvE commodity trades being taken and explained as they evolved.

Also I don't give a crap about objective thinking, it does not exist so why should I pretend to do that.

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Homo Jesus
The LGBT Last Supper
#907 - 2012-07-27 00:02:53 UTC
New barges to do the same mind numbing activity of mining? If there is a win situation here I'm not sure who it is that's winning anything especially considering with a corp invite from indytards HP doesn't really matter.....
Evei Shard
Shard Industries
#908 - 2012-07-27 00:18:51 UTC
Ludi Burek wrote:
One can only hope that this is a precursor to ice being removed from high sec Smile


You don't understand, do you? This is the last update CCP will *evar!* make to Eve! Game over man! Game over!!!
/sarc

Glad to see someone else gets it in regards to this being a change that is a step along a path, not the final destination.

Profit favors the prepared
Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#909 - 2012-07-27 00:40:25 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
Nobody has a monopoly on building Hulks.
True, only a measly 70% of the price of a Hulk is from Technetium

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#910 - 2012-07-27 00:41:41 UTC
Skippermonkey wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Nobody has a monopoly on building Hulks.
True, only a measly 70% of the price of a Hulk is from Technetium


which got nerfed

now what

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
Dave Stark
#911 - 2012-07-27 00:42:11 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
Skippermonkey wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Nobody has a monopoly on building Hulks.
True, only a measly 70% of the price of a Hulk is from Technetium


which got nerfed

now what


cheap hulks?
Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#912 - 2012-07-27 00:42:30 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
Skippermonkey wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Nobody has a monopoly on building Hulks.
True, only a measly 70% of the price of a Hulk is from Technetium


which got nerfed

now what

Minecraft?

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
#913 - 2012-07-27 00:52:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Herr Wilkus
Evei Shard wrote:
Ludi Burek wrote:
One can only hope that this is a precursor to ice being removed from high sec Smile


You don't understand, do you? This is the last update CCP will *evar!* make to Eve! Game over man! Game over!!!
/sarc

Glad to see someone else gets it in regards to this being a change that is a step along a path, not the final destination.



Step 1: Halve Concord Response time, triple the sec status penalty. (ganker nerf)

Step 2: Create the Noctis - destroying ninja income by crashing the value of salvage.

Step 3: Kill the LVL 4 Loot, while leaving 'unstealable' bounties untouched. (ninja nerf)

Step 4: Two stealth nerfs of the Orca's abilities, specifically so ninjas cannot benefit from them. (ninja nerf)

Step 5: End enforcement of alliance hopping exploits. (merc nerf)

Step 6: Remove insurance, but only for gankers, while leaving it in place for self-destruction. (ganker nerf)

Step 7: Screw up RR and aggression flags, then provide helpful popups so nobody can hurt an Incursion bear. (Skunkworks)

Step 8: Dramatically reduce the time and effort it takes to set-up or break-down a POS. (merc nerf)

Step 9: Buff Concord by preventing pirates from boarding or bailing out of ships while GCC'd. (Smodab Ongalot nerf)

Step 10: Buff Concord again, by making them appear instantly to prevent warping while GCC'd. (Herr Wilkus nerf)

Step 11: Huge increase of wardec costs, while allowing free allies and unrestrained corp-dropping to the defender. (mercs)

Step 12: Insane barge buff. (ganker nerf)

Step 13: Crimewatch (major nerf to hauler/freighter ganking and ninjas)

Step 14: Who knows? Instant Concord death ray? Quoting some fool in FF 2012: "Pewww!"

And thats just high-sec.....I'm not even going to start a list of punitive measures taken against a certain nul-sec Alliance that will remain nameless.

Factor in statements from DEVS, on this very thread: Quotable Winners like "Suicide ganking wasn't designed to be profitable", or "Gankers are expected to lose more than the victim..."

Its pretty clear where these steps are taking us.........
Drone 16
Holy Horde
#914 - 2012-07-27 00:56:56 UTC
Here is a thought...

Have OTEC embargo tech...stop the creation of these foul ships before they can even be used!

It puts the peanutbutter on itself or it leaves the bonus round... - E1's greatest Hits
Pipa Porto
#915 - 2012-07-27 00:58:26 UTC
Skippermonkey wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Nobody has a monopoly on building Hulks.
True, only a measly 70% of the price of a Hulk is from Technetium


Which still isn't a monopoly on building Hulks.

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-RubyPorto
James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp RELOADED
CODE.
#916 - 2012-07-27 00:59:41 UTC  |  Edited by: James 315
Herr Wilkus wrote:
Step 1: Halve Concord Response time, triple the sec status penalty. (ganker nerf)

Step 2: Create the Noctis - destroying ninja income by crashing the value of salvage.

Step 3: Kill the LVL 4 Loot, while leaving 'unstealable' bounties untouched. (ninja nerf)

Step 4: Two stealth nerfs of the Orca's abilities, specifically so ninjas cannot benefit from them. (ninja nerf)

Step 5: End enforcement of alliance hopping exploits. (merc nerf)

Step 6: Remove insurance, but only for gankers, while leaving it in place for self-destruction. (ganker nerf)

Step 7: Screw up RR and aggression flags, then provide helpful popups so nobody can hurt an Incursion bear. (Skunkworks)

Step 8: Dramatically reduce the time and effort it takes to set-up or break-down a POS. (merc nerf)

Step 9: Buff Concord by preventing pirates from boarding or bailing out of ships while GCC'd. (Smodab Ongalot nerf)

Step 10: Buff Concord again, by making them appear instantly to prevent warping while GCC'd. (Herr Wilkus nerf)

Step 11: Huge increase of wardec costs, while allowing free allies and unrestrained corp-dropping to the defender. (mercs)

Step 12: Insane barge buff. (ganker nerf)

Step 13: Crimewatch (major nerf to hauler/freighter ganking and ninjas)

Step 14: Who knows? Instant Concord death ray? Quoting some fool in FF 2012: "Pewww!"

And thats just high-sec.....I'm not even going to start a list of punitive measures taken against a certain nul-sec Alliance that will remain nameless.

Factor in statements from DEVS, on this very thread: Quotable Winners like "Suicide ganking wasn't designed to be profitable", or "Gankers are expected to lose more than the victim..."

Its pretty clear where these steps are taking us.........

If only it were possible to "like" the same post more than once. Straight

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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#917 - 2012-07-27 01:02:47 UTC
Herr Wilkus wrote:
Step 13: Crimewatch (major nerf to hauler/freighter ganking and ninjas)

I can see ninjas(thieves) getting a nerf, but how are hauler gankers affected?
Cloned S0ul
POCKOCMOC Inc.
#918 - 2012-07-27 01:03:31 UTC
T2 talos ? Talos is tier 3 bc, not even tech 2, drugs are bad OP are mad.
Drone 16
Holy Horde
#919 - 2012-07-27 01:09:41 UTC
Back in the day Hulk pilots did have a remedy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndWUlntJ58U

Now they are just meat...

Let's try the new barge layouts out and CCP can always nerf it later. I bet there will still be plenty of ganks.

It puts the peanutbutter on itself or it leaves the bonus round... - E1's greatest Hits
Pipa Porto
#920 - 2012-07-27 01:14:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Pipa Porto
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
Herr Wilkus wrote:
Step 13: Crimewatch (major nerf to hauler/freighter ganking and ninjas)

I can see ninjas(thieves) getting a nerf, but how are hauler gankers affected?


The dead guy owns his wreck. When you steal from a wreck, Crimewatch says everyone can shoot you. You can only loot a properly loaded (post crimewatch proper, meaning wrapped GFCs) freighter with another Freighter. Try to loot a freighter, your freighter will die. The way around that is to have a sacrificial freighter who is in corp with the looting freighter (and hope the loot survives 2 explosions).

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-RubyPorto