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Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#781 - 2012-07-26 21:49:13 UTC
"my hulk should tank like a damnation because it costs as much as one, it should do as much dps as an astarte because it costs as much as one, and it should make no sacrifices in yield because it's expensive"

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#782 - 2012-07-26 21:49:23 UTC
if tech doesn't start going up, it will go down

or stay the same, one of the two
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#783 - 2012-07-26 21:49:35 UTC
MeBiatch wrote:
Richard Desturned wrote:
seriously your only retort to "hey look, a mackinaw/hulk that can fit a tank" is "well it's inconvenient and it reduces my ~isk/hr~ so CCP should fix it so that I don't have to think for myself"

Admit the only reason you care is this will lessen the demand for tech


uh, high demand for tech is good for us

we have 65 tech moons, you see

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EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#784 - 2012-07-26 21:50:02 UTC
MeBiatch wrote:
Richard Desturned wrote:
seriously your only retort to "hey look, a mackinaw/hulk that can fit a tank" is "well it's inconvenient and it reduces my ~isk/hr~ so CCP should fix it so that I don't have to think for myself"

Admit the only reason you care is this will lessen the demand for tech

we trolled a lot about hulkageddon fattening our pockets, but it wasn't true

hulks didn't sell any better during hulkageddon than before
Ginseng Jita
PAN-EVE TRADING COMPANY
#785 - 2012-07-26 21:50:35 UTC
EvilweaselSA wrote:
MeBiatch wrote:
Richard Desturned wrote:
seriously your only retort to "hey look, a mackinaw/hulk that can fit a tank" is "well it's inconvenient and it reduces my ~isk/hr~ so CCP should fix it so that I don't have to think for myself"

Admit the only reason you care is this will lessen the demand for tech

we trolled a lot about hulkageddon fattening our pockets, but it wasn't true

hulks didn't sell any better during hulkageddon than before


Prices dropped for hulks during hulkageddon even.
Dave stark
#786 - 2012-07-26 21:51:06 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
i'll stop making dumb comparisons when you stop posting dumb fits.


why is it a dumb fit? because it doesn't have max yield and 30k ehp?

i hope that's not what you're saying because if so go try doing that yourself, hint, you can't

god forbid hisec miners have to make *gasp* DECISIONS


no, because it doesn't even attempt to have a half decent yield let alone a max yield. ****, i'm somewhat surprised that it actually had both harvesters.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#787 - 2012-07-26 21:51:29 UTC
MeBiatch wrote:
Richard Desturned wrote:
seriously your only retort to "hey look, a mackinaw/hulk that can fit a tank" is "well it's inconvenient and it reduces my ~isk/hr~ so CCP should fix it so that I don't have to think for myself"

Admit the only reason you care is this will lessen the demand for tech

Of course, because every single Goon profits from tech (and not just the alliance as a whole).

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#788 - 2012-07-26 21:51:56 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
"my hulk should tank like a damnation because it costs as much as one, it should do as much dps as an astarte because it costs as much as one, and it should make no sacrifices in yield because it's expensive"

You are upset because this will make alchemy a viable alternative to tech

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Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#789 - 2012-07-26 21:52:03 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
That's not a compromise that's a neutering.


sorry if i disagree with your arbitrary definitions of "compromise" and "neutering" but you're wrong here

and hey if a yield-fit mining ship pays for itself before it gets ganked, well, working as ******* intended


It's why I also an not very comfortable with *these* exact changes and would have preferred other ways.

But hey unlike you who don't even live in hi sec, I don't get such a stomach fit for a ship redesign.

The world will survive 2012 and also some K EHP increase on some ships.

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Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#790 - 2012-07-26 21:53:18 UTC
Dave stark wrote:
no, because it doesn't even attempt to have a half decent yield let alone a max yield. ****, i'm somewhat surprised that it actually had both harvesters.


wow look at you missing the point

it's called CHOICES

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#791 - 2012-07-26 21:53:23 UTC
EvilweaselSA wrote:
MeBiatch wrote:
Richard Desturned wrote:
seriously your only retort to "hey look, a mackinaw/hulk that can fit a tank" is "well it's inconvenient and it reduces my ~isk/hr~ so CCP should fix it so that I don't have to think for myself"

Admit the only reason you care is this will lessen the demand for tech

we trolled a lot about hulkageddon fattening our pockets, but it wasn't true

hulks didn't sell any better during hulkageddon than before

Cam I see the numbers?

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#792 - 2012-07-26 21:53:48 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
also go find me an amarr battleship fit that can fit a full rack of t2 tachyons while having a tank that isn't abysmal

oracles don't count because their tank is abysmal by design

So what you are saying is that we need a short range higher yield ice miner to allow an alternative like amarr BS have?
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#793 - 2012-07-26 21:53:55 UTC
EvilweaselSA wrote:
nerf friends


Have seen in GW2 what Goons do when they can't bring 5000 players in one PvP match of 5v5.

Blobbers.

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#794 - 2012-07-26 21:54:41 UTC
But don't take my word for anything, since I'm obviously a Goon pet and bow down to their every bidding.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#795 - 2012-07-26 21:54:46 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Sorry hi sec has no blob tards bringing more than 10 ships and that's speaking of quite large hi sec mining fleets already.


i'm sorry that hiseccers are so averse to social interaction that they can't make friends

in the meantime we'll just gank your afk mining ships with more than 2 catalysts


... flown by a loner.

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Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#796 - 2012-07-26 21:55:05 UTC
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
Richard Desturned wrote:
also go find me an amarr battleship fit that can fit a full rack of t2 tachyons while having a tank that isn't abysmal

oracles don't count because their tank is abysmal by design

So what you are saying is that we need a short range higher yield ice miner to allow an alternative like amarr BS have?


sure why not

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#797 - 2012-07-26 21:55:26 UTC
MeBiatch wrote:
EvilweaselSA wrote:
MeBiatch wrote:
Richard Desturned wrote:
seriously your only retort to "hey look, a mackinaw/hulk that can fit a tank" is "well it's inconvenient and it reduces my ~isk/hr~ so CCP should fix it so that I don't have to think for myself"

Admit the only reason you care is this will lessen the demand for tech

we trolled a lot about hulkageddon fattening our pockets, but it wasn't true

hulks didn't sell any better during hulkageddon than before

Cam I see the numbers?

I didn't think to save them since I saw no reason to make that info public but some of the eve market sites might have them

basically, volume for hulks was flat before/after hulkageddon started: you should see an increase if we were actually driving increased hulk demand
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#798 - 2012-07-26 21:55:43 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
MeBiatch wrote:
Richard Desturned wrote:
seriously your only retort to "hey look, a mackinaw/hulk that can fit a tank" is "well it's inconvenient and it reduces my ~isk/hr~ so CCP should fix it so that I don't have to think for myself"

Admit the only reason you care is this will lessen the demand for tech

Of course, because every single Goon profits from tech (and not just the alliance as a whole).

Sorry I should say your reimbursement program will take a hit... Which in the long run could affect your fighting policy

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Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#799 - 2012-07-26 21:56:20 UTC
Had fun reading everyone's arguments, counters etc little/taunts etc, was very fun but guy it's time for me to wish you GN.

Have fun and keep this thing alive!


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Dave stark
#800 - 2012-07-26 21:56:24 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
no, because it doesn't even attempt to have a half decent yield let alone a max yield. ****, i'm somewhat surprised that it actually had both harvesters.


wow look at you missing the point

it's called CHOICES


no, what you presented wasn't a choice, it was pretty much evidence if you want a tank you sacrifice the entire purpose of the ship.