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Magometric and Radar Sites, Halp me!
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Beachura
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-07-17 21:13:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Beachura
Hi guys, so im making a few hundred mil isk a day running anoms + ded's at the minute. I'd like to get into Mag and Radar sites and want advice on everything I need to know. I have good scanning skills and want some advice including how much money I could be making out of these

Thanks guys!

(If anyone wants to help me with my skills, getting me started in hacking / archaeology etc : http://eveboard.com/pilot/Beachura)
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-07-17 21:29:06 UTC
Warp to it, shoot stuff, hack cans.
Theyre the same as anoms effectively.

There is no Bob.

Stuck In Here With Me:  http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/

Down the Pipe:  http://feeds.feedburner.com/CloakyScout
Faulx
Brother Fox Corp
#3 - 2012-07-18 07:02:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Faulx
The exploration pages would probably be quite useful to you:
List of All W-Space Systems
Wormhole Interconnections
Cosmic Signatures
Cosmic Anomalies
DED Complexes
Unrated Complexes
Gravimetric Sites
Ladar Sites
Magnetometric Sites
Radar Sites
Base Signature Strength (advanced scanning)

There are still some holes in the information, but it will definitely get you started.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-07-18 09:25:19 UTC
mfw 'Magometric'

I should buy an Ishtar.
Rastin Crysknife
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-07-18 11:11:00 UTC
The main point to note about radar and mag sites is that they are about a class of difficulty higher than the anomalies, so unless you can handle an anomaly in a class of wormhole at least 1 higher than where the signature is, it's best to stay clear.

Bob is always present, watching you traverse space accessable only though wormholes. He is the constant reminder that there is always someone watching you, waiting for your moment of weakness to appear and claim his toll for collecting the bounty of his realm.
Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#6 - 2012-07-18 15:29:52 UTC
Go and try it and see what happens, stop asking to be ******* spoon fed everything.
Beachura
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-07-22 21:06:37 UTC
Gibbo3771 wrote:
Go and try it and see what happens, stop asking to be ******* spoon fed everything.


I beg your pardon? I have been a member of the eve online community for nearly six years and I am asking for some assistance on one of the few issues that I am grey on.

Shut, the, **** up. Unhelpful idiot.
Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#8 - 2012-07-22 21:14:30 UTC
Beachura wrote:
Gibbo3771 wrote:
Go and try it and see what happens, stop asking to be ******* spoon fed everything.


I beg your pardon? I have been a member of the eve online community for nearly six years and I am asking for some assistance on one of the few issues that I am grey on.

Shut, the, **** up. Unhelpful idiot.


6 years in the eve community and you still come onto these forums and ask dumb questions that take 10-15 minutes of research and data collection.

All can be found and worked out using EFT, evewiki, evesurvival and goonwiki.

But nah you would rather come on here and expect everyone to do it for you.

Also nice mail you sent me, I like how much you wanted the attention.
Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#9 - 2012-07-23 01:17:06 UTC
for w-space mag/radar sig sites you need to (usually):
- Find the site;
- Kill the sleeper rats (in some C5 IIRC you can part clear the rats and then open the cans);
- Salvage and loot the wrecks;
- Open the cans and loot their contents.

Finding the site.

Plain old scanning. they are usually the smallest / weakest sites in the w-system so often need decent scan skills to locate and bookmark.

Clearing the sleepers.

These sites are tougher than the toughest anom for whatever class of w-system you're in. So if you cannot clear the toughest anom you're not likely to be able to clear the mag/radar sites.
I use tengu for this (C2-C5) ... but lots of other ship types are ok.

Salvage / loot the wrecks.

I always keep a cloaky scout on grid ... to make 100% sure the site doesn't depsawn when I warp off to swap ships.
I use a plain old noctis for this.

Open and loot the cans.

I use dedicated hurricanes for this. Plenty of cargo space and can run multiple can-opening modules. They're very quick for the job, because of the multiple modules and dedicated rigs ... but probably not worth it unless you're running your own resident system.
Sometimes, if I have hostiles hassling me, I will use a multifunction can-opener covops frigate. Not as quick but safer to use when evil doers are in the site.

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.
Suqq Madiq
#10 - 2012-07-23 19:47:17 UTC
Gibbo3771 wrote:
Go and try it and see what happens, stop asking to be ******* spoon fed everything.


Your alliance earned a lot of respect with your ATX performance. Try not to go **** it all away by acting like a complete ******* moron on the forums, would you?
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-07-24 02:40:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Miton
Gibbo3771 wrote:
Beachura wrote:
Gibbo3771 wrote:
Go and try it and see what happens, stop asking to be ******* spoon fed everything.


I beg your pardon? I have been a member of the eve online community for nearly six years and I am asking for some assistance on one of the few issues that I am grey on.

Shut, the, **** up. Unhelpful idiot.


6 years in the eve community and you still come onto these forums and ask dumb questions that take 10-15 minutes of research and data collection.

All can be found and worked out using EFT, evewiki, evesurvival and goonwiki.

But nah you would rather come on here and expect everyone to do it for you.

Also nice mail you sent me, I like how much you wanted the attention.


^this...

if youre too lazy to spend 10min on google, why should people with sometimes years of experience assist you in your incompetence...

WH veterans WILL give you good information if you can show that you are actually trying to figure things out and ask good questions.
on the other hand, blanket questions that equate to "im lazy/scared, spoon feed me to make things easier" will get you mocked or ignored.

Quote:
I always keep a cloaky scout on grid ... to make 100% sure the site doesn't depsawn when I warp off to swap ships.
I use a plain old noctis for this.


^cloaked ship no longer hold sites open.

There is no Bob.

Stuck In Here With Me:  http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/

Down the Pipe:  http://feeds.feedburner.com/CloakyScout
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-07-24 02:41:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Miton
D-D-D-Double Post!!!!

There is no Bob.

Stuck In Here With Me:  http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/

Down the Pipe:  http://feeds.feedburner.com/CloakyScout
Bernie Nator
Seal Club Six
Plug N Play
#13 - 2012-07-24 03:04:42 UTC
The info is out there. Have you considered just doing a quick search? It takes about 2 minutes to google a site, what you'll find inside, how many ships you'll need to clear it, and no one will insult you. Wormhole space isn't about "I'm new please halp ", it's about taking risks, the reward it brings for doing something risky, and the fun. By coming here and asking, you show that you have no respect for how we do things.

Maybe you should work for it. All I'm saying.
Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#14 - 2012-07-24 03:12:05 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:

^cloaked ship no longer hold sites open.


Ahhh yes, good point, thanks.

I do remember reading that somewhere, but haven't been running any w-space sites since then.

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.
Zicon Shak'ra
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-07-24 15:00:24 UTC
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Exploration_guide

Googling is difficult now, apparently.

Wormholes are cool, m'kay?
Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#16 - 2012-07-26 10:28:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Gibbo3771
Suqq Madiq wrote:
Gibbo3771 wrote:
Go and try it and see what happens, stop asking to be ******* spoon fed everything.


Your alliance earned a lot of respect with your ATX performance. Try not to go **** it all away by acting like a complete ******* moron on the forums, would you?


As if I give a **** about respect m8 and I always shitpost, always have.

Technically my post was what most people where thinking, not my fault I am harsh and right to the point.

Also know how I learned how to do mag/radars? I flew a ship into them to see what would happen, same day I had perfected fits for both sites.
Mister Tuggles
Dickhead Corner
#17 - 2012-07-26 11:13:31 UTC
Beachura wrote:
Hi guys, so im making a few hundred mil isk a day running anoms + ded's at the minute. I'd like to get into Mag and Radar sites and want advice on everything I need to know. I have good scanning skills and want some advice including how much money I could be making out of these

Thanks guys!

(If anyone wants to help me with my skills, getting me started in hacking / archaeology etc : http://eveboard.com/pilot/Beachura)




The isk you make is totally random like all of WH, but you can make a pretty decent amount of isk from them if only just from the salvage. You need to have hacking and analyzing at 5 or it will take you for fricking ever to open things up.

You also need to be able to clear the site, which as someone said, they are usally 1 class higher in difficulty.
Coolsmoke
State War Academy
Caldari State
#18 - 2012-07-26 16:46:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Coolsmoke
You won't beat the "few hundred mil isk a day" you mentioned until you're able to take on Mags & Radars in C3 systems. C1&C2 will give you a few of the valuable Melted Nanoribbons (from salvage) and Caldari Decryptors (from Radar cans).

But the real can loot starts dropping from C3 sites - particularly the Mag sites which can be worth 150-250mil including "Malfunctioning" relics and Hull Sections. Sleepers in C3 sites neut heavily in the last waves.

To "safely" run C3 sites solo, you need an HML Tengu with an 800-900dps tank, 65% cap stability and good missile support skills. Something like this:

[Tengu, T2 C4 solo]
Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II

Shield Boost Amplifier II
X-Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Domination EM Ward Field
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II

Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Intercalated Nanofibers

DPS isn't fabulous, but you can clear a C3 Mag site in about 35 mins with this.
The main dictum in solo-fighting Sleepers is: Tank then Gank. Tank = cap tank and dps tank.

Play with that fit (which is reasonably cheap apart from the T2 rigs). But tbh, you're probably better off running C1/2 sites in a Drake first just to get a taste of the mechanics.

Probably a lot more to tell, but I can't think offhand.
Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#19 - 2012-07-26 17:14:04 UTC
Coolsmoke wrote:
You won't beat the "few hundred mil isk a day" you mentioned until you're able to take on Mags & Radars in C3 systems. C1&C2 will give you a few of the valuable Melted Nanoribbons (from salvage) and Caldari Decryptors (from Radar cans).

But the real can loot starts dropping from C3 sites - particularly the Mag sites which can be worth 150-250mil including "Malfunctioning" relics and Hull Sections. Sleepers in C3 sites neut heavily in the last waves.

To "safely" run C3 sites solo, you need an HML Tengu with an 800-900dps tank, 65% cap stability and good missile support skills. Something like this:

[Tengu, T2 C4 solo]
Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II

Shield Boost Amplifier II
X-Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Domination EM Ward Field
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II

Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Intercalated Nanofibers

DPS isn't fabulous, but you can clear a C3 Mag site in about 35 mins with this.
The main dictum in solo-fighting Sleepers is: Tank then Gank. Tank = cap tank and dps tank.

Play with that fit (which is reasonably cheap apart from the T2 rigs). But tbh, you're probably better off running C1/2 sites in a Drake first just to get a taste of the mechanics.

Probably a lot more to tell, but I can't think offhand.


lol
Zicon Shak'ra
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2012-07-26 17:33:44 UTC
Gibbo3771 wrote:
Coolsmoke wrote:
You won't beat the "few hundred mil isk a day" you mentioned until you're able to take on Mags & Radars in C3 systems. C1&C2 will give you a few of the valuable Melted Nanoribbons (from salvage) and Caldari Decryptors (from Radar cans).

But the real can loot starts dropping from C3 sites - particularly the Mag sites which can be worth 150-250mil including "Malfunctioning" relics and Hull Sections. Sleepers in C3 sites neut heavily in the last waves.

To "safely" run C3 sites solo, you need an HML Tengu with an 800-900dps tank, 65% cap stability and good missile support skills. Something like this:

[Tengu, T2 C4 solo]
Fit

DPS isn't fabulous, but you can clear a C3 Mag site in about 35 mins with this.
The main dictum in solo-fighting Sleepers is: Tank then Gank. Tank = cap tank and dps tank.

Play with that fit (which is reasonably cheap apart from the T2 rigs). But tbh, you're probably better off running C1/2 sites in a Drake first just to get a taste of the mechanics.

Probably a lot more to tell, but I can't think offhand.


lol


"T2 C4 solo" <- Even more lol

Wormholes are cool, m'kay?
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