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Fighters are pointless now.

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Smoking Blunts
ZC Omega
#61 - 2011-10-11 09:33:40 UTC
Evil Celeste wrote:
No, triage just carrier just takes another cycle if reps are needed.

If they are not, its pretty much over - won or lost - and difference between 600 dps of sentrys and 1000 dps of fighters means absolutely nothing. Especially in fight, where there is need for triage carrier reps - 10k and up damage tanked.


so sentrys can now follow the bs you started killing who warps off. tahts awesom

OMG when can i get a pic here
Shadowsword
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#62 - 2011-10-11 09:36:34 UTC
Smoking Blunts wrote:
its an isk value assement, not man power.

there is no advantage to the carrier over the same isk value of guardians. instead of pushing for carriers in fleet, peopel will push for guardians. why risk something taht will get insta popped by a sc when you can wait 5 mins and get a few extra guardians



If Isk was a valid argument for balancing, one battleship would be better than eight cruisers. One cruiser would be better than 10 friagates. One Estamel-fit drake would own your Nyx.

In Eve, like most MMOs, the money->power scale is EXPONENTIAL, not linear. One item A giving 110% of item B's efficiency will cost three times as much.

And, again, arguing about isks and not taking any other factor like manpower into account will get you nowhere.


If you don't like it, too bad, go play something where it isn't the case.
Evil Celeste
#63 - 2011-10-11 09:45:47 UTC
Smoking Blunts wrote:
so sentrys can now follow the bs you started killing who warps off. tahts awesom


So now you are saying, that you are using fighters on random battleships that are not tackled and wasting 1k dps that could be used on primary?

GJ!

Lol
Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
#64 - 2011-10-11 09:48:58 UTC
Evil Celeste wrote:
Smoking Blunts wrote:
so sentrys can now follow the bs you started killing who warps off. tahts awesom


So now you are saying, that you are using fighters on random battleships that are not tackled and wasting 1k dps that could be used on primary?

GJ!

Lol

In a hotdrop scenario it may not matter, since your own side has overwhelming firepower anyway. The argument is valid IMO.

                      "LIVE FAST DIE." - traditional Minmatar ethos [citation needed]
Evil Celeste
#65 - 2011-10-11 09:54:51 UTC
Shooting ship that is not pointed and spreading dps is always fail.

And in scenario, when your side has overwhelming firepower (=blobbing), difference between sentries and fighters is minimal. Not that if you are blobbing, you cant bring some target painters and use fighters with full efficiency.
DarkAegix
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#66 - 2011-10-11 09:56:20 UTC
Confirming that massive capital hotdrop blobs aren't competent enough to bring tackle.
:elitepvp:
Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#67 - 2011-10-11 09:56:39 UTC
So a ship class which major fleet role is support gets reduced in its role as offence... Sounds good to me.

Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook 

Evil Celeste
#68 - 2011-10-11 09:58:29 UTC
Carriers role is LOGISTICS - you know, REMOTE REPAIR.

Not dps.
Cozmik R5
Chez Stan
#69 - 2011-10-11 10:01:39 UTC
"Waaaaahhh, cap nerf!"

QQ more plz. And learn to fly ships that require actual work.

Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try.
Smoking Blunts
ZC Omega
#70 - 2011-10-11 10:35:03 UTC
Evil Celeste wrote:
Carriers role is LOGISTICS - you know, REMOTE REPAIR.

Not dps.


so there changing teh thannys bonses away from damage then? if they swap it to rep amount or rep range away from fighters, you know the OFFENSIVE thing, you would have a point

OMG when can i get a pic here
Evil Celeste
#71 - 2011-10-11 10:49:32 UTC
Useless bonus? Maybe, but perfectly in line with its racial supercarrier bonus. And I dont know many people who were complaining about nyx damage bonus.

Ah, its satysfying to harvest all these carrier carebear tears, please continue.
CCP Spitfire
C C P
C C P Alliance
#72 - 2011-10-11 10:55:13 UTC
Thank you for the feedback! Please have a look at this post by CCP Tallest about the changes to fighters.

CCP Spitfire | Marketing & Sales Team @ccp_spitfire
Smoking Blunts
ZC Omega
#73 - 2011-10-11 10:58:43 UTC
CCP Spitfire wrote:
Thank you for the feedback! Please have a look at this post by CCP Tallest about the changes to fighters.



i have, can you give my moros its drones back also, removing drones from dreads is short sighted to say the least

OMG when can i get a pic here
Just Another Toon
Doomheim
#74 - 2011-10-11 11:02:20 UTC
CCP Spitfire wrote:
Thank you for the feedback! Please have a look at this post by CCP Tallest about the changes to fighters.


unbelievable!
Evil Celeste
#75 - 2011-10-11 11:18:58 UTC
CCP Spitfire wrote:
Thank you for the feedback! Please have a look at this post by CCP Tallest about the changes to fighters.


That i call "Capital carebears strike back" lol.
Barry Buckmaster
Four Twenty Enterprises
#76 - 2011-10-11 11:24:53 UTC
CCP Spitfire wrote:
Thank you for the feedback! Please have a look at this post by CCP Tallest about the changes to fighters.


and there we go. /end thread.

gotta say that CCP Tallest appears to be pretty damn awesome

+ rep to the CCP team
adopt
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#77 - 2011-10-11 11:40:26 UTC
And this is the reason I love CCP, they listen to their customers (mostly P)
Jada Maroo
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#78 - 2011-10-11 11:47:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Jada Maroo
Evil Celeste wrote:
Carriers role is LOGISTICS - you know, REMOTE REPAIR.

Not dps.


Yeah, because when the USS Nimitz launches F-18s they're flying off to repair stuff.

Seriously, you're a tard.
Generals4
#79 - 2011-10-11 11:49:09 UTC
Jada Maroo wrote:
Evil Celeste wrote:
Carriers role is LOGISTICS - you know, REMOTE REPAIR.

Not dps.


Yeah, because when the USS Nimitz launches F-18s they're doing it to repair stuff.


Well duh, next thing you're going to tell me guns aren't used to repair stuff.

_-Death is nothing, but to live defeated and inglorious is to die daily. _
Karim alRashid
Starboard.
#80 - 2011-10-11 12:06:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Karim alRashid
Jada Maroo wrote:
Evil Celeste wrote:
Carriers role is LOGISTICS - you know, REMOTE REPAIR.

Not dps.


Yeah, because when the USS Nimitz launches F-18s they're flying off to repair stuff.

Seriously, you're a tard.


Confirming an imaginary spaceship in an online game is analogous to real-life naval ship.

That said, carriers are multi-purpose - either logistics or combat ships depending on fit.

Pain is weakness leaving the body http://www.youtube.com/user/AlRashidKarim/videos