Science & Industry

50k isk profit / T2 HML

Most of build cost is in components.

Not Hulk, the HML.

Demand for Hulks will drop after Inferno 1.2 is released. Not much profit in there.

I thought you all think that invention is better than T2 BOP.

First you have to buy Covetor BPO for 20b and then research it (takes a year or two).
Successfully inventing Hulk BPC is very rare.
When you have that BPC you have to spend billions to get components.

I have to research it because I have to build Covetors.

Here's a novel concept for you to try and start understanding.

The following are completely separate processes which are either profitable or not, and have varying degrees of profitability.
- creating Covetor BPCs (research line)
- manufacturing Covetors from a BPO (manufacture line)
- inventing Hulk BPCs from Covetor BPCs (research line)
- manufacturing Hulks from Hulk BPCs (manufacture line)
- manufacturing T2 components needed for a Hulk from component BPOs (manufacture line)

Each one of those steps is independent of eachother.
You don't HAVE to do all of them.
You CAN do either one or either combinations of the above, up to all of them.
But you don't HAVE to.
And you really don't WANT to do any of the above that's not profitable by itself.
You can buy all needed ingredients for any step or sell all results of a step via the market or contracts.
Some are easier to buy, others are easier to sell.
You want to do as much as possible from that one step that's the most profitable of them all for any particular line (manufacture or research).

Great news for you, dear grand-grand-grand-...-grand-uncle Philip J. Fry, you can now all of a sudden buy those from the market, as if by magic !

Also, as additional info you might not be yet aware of, if you stick the Covetor BPO in a lab to make Covetor BPCs, you can't use the Covetor BPO at the same time to manufacture Covetors (and also, making a BPC run takes longer than manufacturing one unit), so whichever pays best (copy or manufacture) should be the thing you should want to do with a Covetor BPO non-stop, and nothing else.

Even giving invented T2 BPCs a base of ME:0/PE:0 instead of ME:-4/PE:-4 would already be a huge improvement in cost of invented T2 items. There's a TRUCKLOAD more of a difference in cost from ME:-3 to ME:-2 than from ME:2 to ME:3, for instance.
Another huge improvement would be making T1 BPC ME/PE level affect T2 BPC ME/PE level. It could be done alongside or instead of the above.
Slightly buffing decryptors is also one alternative, also doable as a standalone or in conjunction with any or both of the above.
Increasing T2 BPC obtained runs, or increasing invention chance, or a combo of both would also be a significant possible improvement of invented T2 item cost and therefore a nerf to BPO owners.

And there were no gifted T2 BPOs that are of even remote relevance that still exist today.
The overwhelming vast majority of the ones that matter are those actually earned, then passed on though many hands to their current owners in exchange for cold, hard ISK, with no kind of foul play involved whatsoever.

Removing them is not a test of testicular fortitude, but one of utter ignorance towards the emergent situation, and the process itself would do far more harm than good.
Rendering them borderline but not quite completely useless however (preferably via heavy invention buffs and nothing else), that's what needs balls of steel to pull off, and is actually something desirable, which would have far less potential bad consequences, while still having most of the good ones.

P.S.
None of the above would really affect inventor profit significantly, only T2 item price. Inventors compete against eachother primarily anyway in whatever volume's left past BPO manufacture caps, limiting their own profits just fine without BPO owners having to do anything at all.
The only noteworthy difference would be how badly nerfed T2 BPOs would end up being from a profit/value standpoint.
Not even a complete removal of T2 BPOs would help inventor profits (and it would actually increase T2 item prices if nothing else changes) - there would just be a bit more of them (inventors), but each would still more or less pull down a similar profit to the one they pull today. Hell, as immediate and unequivocal proof, a lot of T2 items that don't have and never had a T2 BPO at all are crap-all-profit to invent already anyway.

Did you research it on NPC station?

No, you didn't.

Not anymore since now everyone knows...

Hulks look pretty good actually. Maybe I should make some.

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