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As a young player, what choices do I have to legally take advantage of the weak?

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Lord Arakkis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-07-25 22:08:51 UTC
I want to keep it within EVE rules and dont want to completely get kicked out of hi sec (just yet at least), so what are some of the known activites I can learn?

Your still a child in the eyes of the universe
Jim Era
#2 - 2012-07-25 22:10:19 UTC
flip cans, easiest way for new pilots in high-sec

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Lord Arakkis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-07-25 22:12:38 UTC
Jim Era wrote:
flip cans, easiest way for new pilots in high-sec


If Im correct that is the act of putting out a mislabled can to provoke a fool into opening it, allowing me to shoot them without penalty?

Your still a child in the eyes of the universe
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#4 - 2012-07-25 22:15:16 UTC
Lord Arakkis wrote:
Jim Era wrote:
flip cans, easiest way for new pilots in high-sec


If Im correct that is the act of putting out a mislabled can to provoke a fool into opening it, allowing me to shoot them without penalty?


Naw, thats just bait. and you really need something worthwhile for them to take, faction ammo etc.

Can flip is stealing from a can or wreck not yours. It only flags you to the individual allowing them to shoot you without concord. Yet its only tell they attack you do you have rights to fight back.
So steal miner cans or mission wrecks to get others to attack you.
Pandorium9
Pandorium Prime
#5 - 2012-07-25 22:15:39 UTC
Lord Arakkis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-07-25 22:18:02 UTC
Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:
Lord Arakkis wrote:
Jim Era wrote:
flip cans, easiest way for new pilots in high-sec


If Im correct that is the act of putting out a mislabled can to provoke a fool into opening it, allowing me to shoot them without penalty?


Naw, thats just bait. and you really need something worthwhile for them to take, faction ammo etc.

Can flip is stealing from a can or wreck not yours. It only flags you to the individual allowing them to shoot you without concord. Yet its only tell they attack you do you have rights to fight back.
So steal miner cans or mission wrecks to get others to attack you.



Does this have a negative impact on my security status, and if so how much?

Your still a child in the eyes of the universe
Pipa Porto
#7 - 2012-07-25 22:28:53 UTC
Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:
Lord Arakkis wrote:
Jim Era wrote:
flip cans, easiest way for new pilots in high-sec


If Im correct that is the act of putting out a mislabled can to provoke a fool into opening it, allowing me to shoot them without penalty?


Naw, thats just bait. and you really need something worthwhile for them to take, faction ammo etc.

Can flip is stealing from a can or wreck not yours. It only flags you to the individual allowing them to shoot you without concord. Yet its only tell they attack you do you have rights to fight back.
So steal miner cans or mission wrecks to get others to attack you.


A really fun bait is the old Merlin-in-a-can. Then they have to come out in a hauler to pick it up Pirate

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Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2012-07-25 22:31:21 UTC
Lord Arakkis wrote:
I want to keep it within EVE rules and dont want to completely get kicked out of hi sec (just yet at least), so what are some of the known activites I can learn?

what do you mean by "legal"? against CCP Eula ....or getting flagged by concord?

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#9 - 2012-07-25 22:32:20 UTC
Lord Arakkis wrote:
Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:
Lord Arakkis wrote:
Jim Era wrote:
flip cans, easiest way for new pilots in high-sec


If Im correct that is the act of putting out a mislabled can to provoke a fool into opening it, allowing me to shoot them without penalty?


Naw, thats just bait. and you really need something worthwhile for them to take, faction ammo etc.

Can flip is stealing from a can or wreck not yours. It only flags you to the individual allowing them to shoot you without concord. Yet its only tell they attack you do you have rights to fight back.
So steal miner cans or mission wrecks to get others to attack you.



Does this have a negative impact on my security status, and if so how much?


As long as you don't pod, exploding other peoples spaceships after you have can flipped them, and they've been stupid enough to fire at you shouldn't affect your sec status. NB they have to be stupid enough to aggress you, you can then claim "han shot first"

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Lord Arakkis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-07-25 22:33:39 UTC
Barbara Nichole wrote:
Lord Arakkis wrote:
I want to keep it within EVE rules and dont want to completely get kicked out of hi sec (just yet at least), so what are some of the known activites I can learn?

what do you mean by "legal"? against CCP Eula ....or getting flagged by concord?



More the previous, but in actuality I dont think I want to tango with concord either.

Your still a child in the eyes of the universe
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-07-25 22:36:04 UTC
Lord Arakkis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-07-25 22:40:51 UTC
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Ninja_Salvaging


I do this now and it has proven to be lucrative when Im not occupied with other things.

Your still a child in the eyes of the universe
Joe Hinken
Cetan Consortium
#13 - 2012-07-25 22:50:24 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:


A really fun bait is the old Merlin-in-a-can. Then they have to come out in a hauler to pick it up Pirate

Brilliant.

Brick Royl > bad timing the isk is deflating fatser then a baloon in a cactus shop
Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
#14 - 2012-07-25 22:53:48 UTC
Go to Dodixie or Jita and flip every can near the undock. :P

"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro"
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#15 - 2012-07-25 22:53:57 UTC
It does me good to see you fine folks teaching people the mechanics of EVE the proper way to use the mechanics.

Just keep it out of rookie systems, ok?

ISD Dorrim Barstorlode

Senior Lead

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Interstellar Services Department
MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2012-07-25 23:29:07 UTC
it's 100% outside of rookie systems

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Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#17 - 2012-07-26 00:04:49 UTC
Can flipping is going to be removed very soon, so I wouldn't invest too much time into it. Form a one-man corporation (of course you can invite friends and/or get more members if you wish) and start doing wars to experience this long-standing aspect of the game, before it is also removed in a year or two. After that, train for a Machariel with good navigation skills.

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
Traejun DiSanctis
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#18 - 2012-07-26 00:06:57 UTC
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Can flipping is going to be removed very soon, so I wouldn't invest too much time into it. Form a one-man corporation (of course you can invite friends and/or get more members if you wish) and start doing wars to experience this long-standing aspect of the game, before it is also removed in a year or two. After that, train for a Machariel with good navigation skills.


is this some kind of ninja QQ about EvE getting carebear'ified?
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#19 - 2012-07-26 00:07:48 UTC
Traejun DiSanctis wrote:
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Can flipping is going to be removed very soon, so I wouldn't invest too much time into it. Form a one-man corporation (of course you can invite friends and/or get more members if you wish) and start doing wars to experience this long-standing aspect of the game, before it is also removed in a year or two. After that, train for a Machariel with good navigation skills.


is this some kind of ninja QQ about EvE getting carebear'ified?

Yeah.

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
Large Collidable Object
morons.
#20 - 2012-07-26 00:08:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Large Collidable Object
The real question is what 'advantage' you really get from preying on the weak - a few shoddy T1 mods? Ganking an empty Iteron/Bestower with some cargo mods trying to pick up the Merlin in a can?

Something even more useless like a killmail?

Either get your assault frig and support skills up and try some solo marauder mission runners to get to aggro you (it may take a while, and you need some tactics, but you should eventually be able to take them down with help of the mission rats) or train for a Tornado and suicide-gank some mission Tengus (low EHP and typically dumb pilots).

Should be a couple of 100 million isk dropping each time you achieve either one of them.
You know... [morons.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gjOx65yD5A)
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