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Verge of Collapse: The Story Behind our Tourny

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Mrs Curtain
#21 - 2012-07-24 21:13:02 UTC
Faffywaffy wrote:
Because everyone knows that when something as unexpected as this happens in an extremely high-pressure environment, everyone involved is 100% calm and knows exactly what to do.

Because you know our scimitar fit and how long it takes to recharge its cap to 95%.

Because you know exactly when our scimi pilot noticed the issue.

Because he had no other issues when he was transferred to the tournament system.

Because you know how much time passed between us landing in the system and the start of the match.

Because you're not an idiot who thinks he knows everything better than everyone else.


You would have lost anyways - tell me how you would win that fight...

Your just a cry baby that shows very poor leadership, you should be embarrassed.

We are still masters of our fate. We are still captains of our souls
Gnaw LF
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2012-07-24 21:20:00 UTC
Faffywaffy wrote:
Because everyone knows that when something as unexpected as this happens in an extremely high-pressure environment, everyone involved is 100% calm and knows exactly what to do.

Because you know our scimitar fit and how long it takes to recharge its cap to 95%.

Because you know exactly when our scimi pilot noticed the issue.

Because he had no other issues when he was transferred to the tournament system.

Because you know how much time passed between us landing in the system and the start of the match.

Because you're not an idiot who thinks he knows everything better than everyone else.



Read other threads, a bunch of VoC guys had their modules offlined across multiple matches during the Finals. They had the presence of mind and their discipline to double check and triple check everything. That is what separates the victorious from the defeated, the composure to face the unexpected and adopt on the fly.

P.S. Remember what they say in mother Russia? "Bad dancer always blames his balls".
Faffywaffy
Fremen Sietch
Evasive Maneuvering.
#23 - 2012-07-24 21:43:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Faffywaffy
Yes, I have much to be embarrassed about in this tournament. LOL.

@Gnaw LF: It's much easier when you're not the first one to have these problems, so both you and the GMs have some idea what to do. When this happened to us the 2nd time, of course we did everything right (and the GM helped).

Another thing that contributed to the confusion was that the fitting window showed these modules as online, so we weren't even sure that onlining them would fix the problem. Remember that you can't lock anyone before the match starts, so we had no way to be sure the transporters would work even after onlining them.

And again, I'm not saying the result of the match would have necessarily been different if not for this issue, but it was definitely a factor.
SupaFlyTNT
V0LTA
WE FORM V0LTA
#24 - 2012-07-24 21:50:07 UTC
That sucks if that was the case faffywaffy - believe me though we went through similar problems throughout the tournament.

gf to all tbh o7
chris lares
V0LTA
WE FORM V0LTA
#25 - 2012-07-24 22:25:55 UTC
GFGF Fight me irl bare knuckle i take u all on. good read STEVEN
Kil2
Club Bear
#26 - 2012-07-24 23:15:51 UTC
Amazing job.

I can't believe you guys stayed under the radar for literally the entire tournament. Despite some really sophisticated tweaks to working archetypes (sentinels omg), we at the show never really understood how strong of a team you were until the very end.

Congratulations and thanks for the great write up.
o/
CCP Soundwave
C C P
C C P Alliance
#27 - 2012-07-25 02:26:55 UTC
Awesome, thanks!
Vjorn Angannon
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#28 - 2012-07-25 03:19:15 UTC
Kil2 wrote:
Amazing job.

I can't believe you guys stayed under the radar for literally the entire tournament. Despite some really sophisticated tweaks to working archetypes (sentinels omg), we at the show never really understood how strong of a team you were until the very end.

Congratulations and thanks for the great write up.
o/


A quick point of interest.

Enjoy Smile
Callduron
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#29 - 2012-07-25 05:50:50 UTC
Good job VoC and thanks for the write-up, Jedi.

I'll get laughed at though when I tell my SWTOR-playing friend that a Jedi just won Eve!

I write http://stabbedup.blogspot.co.uk/

I post on reddit as /u/callduron.
Ohh Yeah
Jerkasaurus Wrecks Inc.
Sedition.
#30 - 2012-07-25 05:53:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Ohh Yeah
Faffy, you're a sore loser shitting up an otherwise excellent thread that deserves nothing but congratulations.

An on-topic note:

When it became clear that Verge of Collapse would be one of the finalists, I really really wanted them to win. I have nothing against HUN, and certainly congratulate them as well on their surprising Vargur setup. The odds of Verge of Collapse winning it all on the TEST betting website were 511:1. The odds of PL winning were 1.8:1 - just to give you an idea of how much the bets were stacked against you. I think more people had ISK on Nulli to win it all than VoC. What you dudes did was really impressive. I had no idea who you were before the last weekend.

The reason I wanted you to win is because WH space provides perfect opportunities to go balls-to-the-wall and use Etanas in PvP. Not only does the cloak let you hide your Etanas perfectly should you roam with one in your gang, but the lack of local prevents anyone from identifying whether or not a known Etana pilot is in system. I'm sure you will keep enough Etanas to field one every match next year, but I really hope you take advantage of the environment you play in to use one or two to their fullest. It would be nothing but a pleasure to see some killmails with Etanas whoring on them.
Apolyon I
Shadow of ISW
#31 - 2012-07-25 06:19:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Apolyon I
Ohh Yeah wrote:
Faffy, you're a sore loser shitting up an otherwise excellent thread that deserves nothing but congratulations.

An on-topic note:

When it became clear that Verge of Collapse would be one of the finalists, I really really wanted them to win. I have nothing against HUN, and certainly congratulate them as well on their surprising Vargur setup. The odds of Verge of Collapse winning it all on the TEST betting website were 511:1. The odds of PL winning were 1.8:1 - just to give you an idea of how much the bets were stacked against you. I think more people had ISK on Nulli to win it all than VoC. What you dudes did was really impressive. I had no idea who you were before the last weekend.

The reason I wanted you to win is because WH space provides perfect opportunities to go balls-to-the-wall and use Etanas in PvP. Not only does the cloak let you hide your Etanas perfectly should you roam with one in your gang, but the lack of local prevents anyone from identifying whether or not a known Etana pilot is in system. I'm sure you will keep enough Etanas to field one every match next year, but I really hope you take advantage of the environment you play in to use one or two to their fullest. It would be nothing but a pleasure to see some killmails with Etanas whoring on them.

there's TEST betting website??
man, I didnt know

I bet 200m on other website and only get 100m back Sad

anyway. thanks for you post and your opinion toward us

P.S: I thought exhale called us 0.0 scrubs before
NSA Bivas
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2012-07-25 07:32:50 UTC  |  Edited by: NSA Bivas
Etana will hotdrop someone whit one civilian small blaster just for making a video out of it cause i love BO's Twisted

And one will be a live broadcast as well !!!

Faffywaffy wrote:
Yes, I have much to be embarrassed about in this tournament. LOL.

@Gnaw LF: It's much easier when you're not the first one to have these problems, so both you and the GMs have some idea what to do. When this happened to us the 2nd time, of course we did everything right (and the GM helped).

Another thing that contributed to the confusion was that the fitting window showed these modules as online, so we weren't even sure that onlining them would fix the problem. Remember that you can't lock anyone before the match starts, so we had no way to be sure the transporters would work even after onlining them.

And again, I'm not saying the result of the match would have necessarily been different if not for this issue, but it was definitely a factor.


if the team I was in would of been disadvantage in any way buy game mechanics, and if would of been certain that the problem haven't been human i'd rather self destruct all my ships as a protest about it then play like that.

and again about the offline modules i'm certain that if any of you guys would of contacted us and said u have offline modules that are a cause of game mechanics we would of waited for u to get ready even if the mach time had already started!

All the guys are good sports and we always appreciate a good fight!

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QwaarJet
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2012-07-25 08:30:00 UTC
Just looking at the names in the alliance I had had you guys in the final against HUN, but I couldn't see anyone beating the great HUN team, so congrats on a fantastic victory.
Suleiman Shouaa
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#34 - 2012-07-25 11:58:58 UTC
Congratulations Verge, you deserved that win!

Nice job with the Sentinels in particular!
Aracimia Wolfe
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#35 - 2012-07-25 12:25:42 UTC
I used the final as cover to get out of Catch cleanly in an SB during a fleet fight.

I warped out with a cry of "Go Verge of Collapse!"

Chuffed you guys won it, gutted I didn't lay any bets.

Kill it with Fire!

Tony Two Bullet
Monocle Madness
#36 - 2012-07-25 20:12:30 UTC
It was great to have you Verge pilots with us in the Monocle Madness channel.

Favorite moment was after WarGod hero logi-ed that Kronos at 5% structure, when he came back into the channel he was all hyped and people were giving him kudos for keeping your ships together!

Thanks for the great fun and can't wait to see more from you!

CEO  Monocle Madness ~ Mega-Insane Lotteries for the Mentally Unstable http://www.monoclemadness.com
Possum's Awesome
Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo
#37 - 2012-07-25 20:14:52 UTC
being a hun buddy, I can't say "you totally deserved that win!"

You earned it, very true.. whether you would've won if other teams' with "ship issues" were fixed before the start of matches or not is irrelevant. You worked your asses off and have the big win and congrats to you all.

to some people crapping up the thread, lots of teams had problems.. instead of crying at the winners, maybe you should ***** at CCP to make sure it doesn't happen next year.
SupaFlyTNT
V0LTA
WE FORM V0LTA
#38 - 2012-07-25 21:01:29 UTC
So many teams with 'ship issues' this year that we fought against. We had the same issues on multiple occasions too guys...
Rengas
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#39 - 2012-07-25 23:03:52 UTC
SupaFlyTNT wrote:
So many teams with 'ship issues' this year that we fought against. We had the same issues on multiple occasions too guys...


My biggest issue during the group stages was when I loaded grid in jove space and realized I was in a griffin...
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#40 - 2012-07-26 02:01:49 UTC
Faffywaffy wrote:
I have much to be embarrassed about.

(ಠ_ృ) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (ಠ_ృ)
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