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the death of the rookie ships
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Chip Flux
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-07-25 18:47:25 UTC
Why are you calling these new ships by the name of our rookie ships ccp?

These ships are NOT rookie ships
The rookie ships are being killed soon.

You are taking away one of my favorite pve ships, the velator.
I doubt I will ever see another lvl2 mission now.

It is a big mistake to take away the most basic ships.
New players want decent frigates, not rookie ships, they always have.
And you are taking one of my favorite challenges out of the game.

Have the decency to kill our ships.
Do not call this new frigate after my velator
It is NOT a velator
Traejun DiSanctis
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-07-25 20:17:30 UTC
What in the actual f-ck?
FireT
Venom Pointe Industries
#3 - 2012-07-25 20:36:26 UTC
Someone clearly forgot their meds or is a bad troll.

The new designs are fantastic. They give new players an actual ship that is worth-a-damn and gives you an amazing idea of what your respective Empire faction specializes in. Obviously it won't be able to do all the things it has as a one time buff, but it can be refitted to a few things.

Also:
Traejun DiSanctis wrote:
What in the actual f-ck?
Yabba Addict
Legion of the Many
#4 - 2012-07-25 20:37:08 UTC
Traejun DiSanctis wrote:
What in the actual f-ck?
Nex apparatu5
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#5 - 2012-07-25 20:54:32 UTC
I've never actually heard someone crying "waaa they're buffing my favorite ship"
Chip Flux
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-07-25 21:33:46 UTC
The new ships are sorely needed
I have spent many years reccomending first ships to new players, thank you very much..

These are not rookie ships.

Why get rid of our rookie ships.

They are new ships, and as such im all for them.
You would be better served thinking of a name for them
As our velators are dead.
Chip Flux
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-07-25 21:38:31 UTC
The velator was..... IS, like I said, one of my most favorite pve ships.
There is no better challenge for an older pilot than to smash lvl2 blockade in a velator.

If you want to buff my velator, then give its rigs back.
You nerfed it
whaynethepain
#8 - 2012-07-25 21:50:23 UTC
I think the Velator is one of the best civilian ships the game has to offer.

There is also a good selection of civilian modules available.

Getting you on your feet.

So you've further to fall.
Sovai Elaaren
KABS Deep Recon Unit
#9 - 2012-07-25 21:52:57 UTC
If running level 2 missions in a velator is the biggest and most satisfying challenge this game has to offer you as a vet, I would suggest that you're probably playing the wrong game.

Good thing it's a troll and you're not serious. Blink
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-07-25 21:57:01 UTC
if you are throwing a random hissy fit in here, at least give us a link on WTF you are talking about.

I should buy an Ishtar.
Chip Flux
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-07-25 22:05:06 UTC
Call me a troll?
Suggest I leave the game i love?

You Sir, in the makeup, are a twit

You are talking to someone that actually plays now.


For the low intellect amoungst us,

there are two levels in this game, one is the highest and one the lowest.

of the two, the lowest takes the most skill.

You know how you get a great feeling of satisfaction to make people angry?
Well some of us get that flying spaceships
Equus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-07-25 22:39:51 UTC
Chip Flux wrote:
Call me a troll?
Suggest I leave the game i love?

You Sir, in the makeup, are a twit

You are talking to someone that actually plays now.


For the low intellect amoungst us,

there are two levels in this game, one is the highest and one the lowest.

of the two, the lowest takes the most skill.

You know how you get a great feeling of satisfaction to make people angry?
Well some of us get that flying spaceships




Calling someone out on intellect while at the same time butchering the English language.... interesting.
Velarra
#13 - 2012-07-25 23:31:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Velarra
ohhh.....well this will be fun:

The Ibis is a common and versatile Frigate provided to all Caldari pilots free of charge.

Traits
Special Abilities:
20% bonus to Small Hybrid Turret optimal range
10% bonus to missile kinetic damage
30% bonus to ECM Target Jammer strength
10% bonus to shield resistances

Development
The Caldari Ibis frigate is a small but stout frigate that fits admirably well as a cargo hauler or small-scale miner. Its reliability makes it a good choice for novice ship captains.

Edit:

Ship is
2 / 2/ 2

110 cpu
22 PG
0 calibration

Can fit 2 turret or 2 launcher

5 mb/s drone bandwith
5m3 drone space

etc.

Source: current sisi build
Sovai Elaaren
KABS Deep Recon Unit
#14 - 2012-07-26 00:04:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Sovai Elaaren
Chip Flux wrote:
Call me a troll?
Suggest I leave the game i love?

You Sir, in the makeup, are a twit

You are talking to someone that actually plays now.


For the low intellect amoungst us,

there are two levels in this game, one is the highest and one the lowest.

of the two, the lowest takes the most skill.

You know how you get a great feeling of satisfaction to make people angry?
Well some of us get that flying spaceships




Not trying to make anyone angry; I literally thought you were a troll. I am dismayed to think that this may not be the case.

Here's a suggestion; With the new buffed stats of the velator, try doing something harder than a level 2, maybe it will be even more satisfying than before.
smokess
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-07-26 10:26:08 UTC
Traejun DiSanctis wrote:
What in the actual f-ck?
Wyte Ragnarok
#16 - 2012-07-26 10:35:40 UTC
Traejun DiSanctis wrote:
What in the actual f-ck?
CorInaXeraL
The Dresdeneers
#17 - 2012-07-26 13:26:40 UTC
Chip Flux wrote:
Call me a troll?
Suggest I leave the game i love?

You Sir, in the makeup, are a twit

You are talking to someone that actually plays now.

For the low intellect amoungst us,

there are two levels in this game, one is the highest and one the lowest.

of the two, the lowest takes the most skill.

You know how you get a great feeling of satisfaction to make people angry?
Well some of us get that flying spaceships




Traejun DiSanctis wrote:
What in the actual f-ck?
Gethin Arq
#18 - 2012-07-26 14:35:43 UTC
Chip Flux wrote:
Call me a troll?
Suggest I leave the game i love?

You Sir, in the makeup, are a twit

You are talking to someone that actually plays now.


For the low intellect amoungst us,

there are two levels in this game, one is the highest and one the lowest.

of the two, the lowest takes the most skill.

You know how you get a great feeling of satisfaction to make people angry?
Well some of us get that flying spaceships



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Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-07-26 16:24:29 UTC
Equus wrote:
Calling someone out on intellect while at the same time butchering the English language.... interesting.


^^^
Learn2English
Chip Flux
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2012-07-26 17:15:24 UTC
i was reffering to one intellect at the time, but i see that you are right and I should have used the word to cover your good self too.

Imicus is good enough in its current form to do easy lvl 4 missions

It is a good lvl3 ship, suffers from being too slow to kill lots of battleships.

The Velator is a base ship that is part of eve tradfition,

Give us more ships, but dont take things away.

You always have to take things away from us in order to give us something different.
This is my problem, yet again.

There is a lot of fun to be had with the velator, BECAUSE of its weakness.

The velator was never a rookie ship, they get a proper frigate at the first opportunity.
The Velator is however flown fondly by a lot of the older players.
I have no doubt that the other races think the same of their `rookie ships`

Dont call the velator a rookie ship then
Call the new frigate a rookie ship, i hope they find it usefull.

The Velator in the bin is the thin end of a wedge of missunderstanding and disrespect for the game Eve
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