EVE General Discussion

i would love to See the tears if ccp decided to give US razzle dazzle capitals.


please please please! Troll of the century :D

I will see if someone from our art team can explain a bit more the work of our fantastic art team and the driving ideas behind art in New Eden.

CCP... you need to stop asking us to be polite and be nice... HTFU as you said yourself once... eve is a harsh place, with a harsh community, you even use that fact in your videos... stop asking us to be like carebears, webites when not treated correctly

CCP Soundwave did a number of dev blogs on Unified Inventory (Uni. Inv.), see the top here http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=author&p=CCP%20Soundwave In addition a number of members on the team that worked on Uni. Inv. participated in forum discussions and summarised for the rest of the team.

(BTW; CCP Punkturis is not on the team that worked on the Uni. Inv. and neither is her team mate, CCP Tuxford.)

I think the idea is that we want them to work towards 4 as much as possible, and to realize that major feature changes should give us the chance to explain why we want things a certain way. A dev post consisting solely of "Why?" followed by some sort of confirmation that the explanation was read( and considered) is going to get you a lot more player feedback on reasons we want more windows, etc.

The proposal is valid and I will look at ways to solve this problem, I just need to sit down with Soundwave and a UI programmers to see how much work it would be and when we could do it. We would also need to compare it to other Shift functionality regarding such an 'Esc' setting, would it only apply to the Inventory, or be a global 'Make SHIFT a primary behavior' kind of thing? etc.


We will look into this behavior, the assumption was that players that only loot one wreck at a time would want to see that it went into the Cargo hold once the 'Loot All' button was pressed. But if the Ship's Cargo hold is empty however, we have now observed users thinking nothing happened because they see no change in the content area of the Inventory window and sometimes they might not notice the focus change in the Index tree, or simply have the Index tree minimized, so this needs addressing I agree. The action should simply close the cargo window once the cargo container is empty, if the user opened a cargo container directly (as a secondary inventory window).

The only question that remains is, if a user opens up the Inventory from the Neocom, and is using the Index tree, will he also want that window to close when he has pressed 'Loot all' on the last wreck in the index tree?

Looting 101

1. Open Wreck (small Wreck window opens without tree view)
2. Click Loot All
3. Wreck window closes
4. Move to next wreck and repeat

- If I click Open Cargo Hold, then open the Cargo Hold in its own window, without tree view.

I don't think anyone uses the Index Tree Inventory in space, let alone to collect Loot, it's just so impractical it's not even funny.

Is anyone using the Index Tree at all except for opening new windows that where a simple click or rclick select before this New World Order?

Cargo? click. Items hangar? click. Ships hangar? click. Corp hangar? click. Market deliveries? click. Wreck? select and click.

Drones? rclick and select. Corp hangar on a ship? rclick and select. Corp hangar on other ship? rclick and select?

And so on.

And you know what, all those different windows remembered their last positions.

None of them suddenly changed to another content except for cargo of active ship that actually did (but doesn't any more).

Grump grump grump.

Maybe it'll get fixed or I'll adjust given some more years.

I was just joking/bad posting.. I will try and remember not to do that again

Let me answer this one. Military background an all.

Well first off the ship has to get painted for protection, it may have properties that keep nastly little things out such as radiation or gas/dirt buildup in space. So next came the question 'what color' to paint it?

Chances are that thier ground forces have these color camos as part of thier normal standard uniforms (not equipment) and thus part of thier military pride to have equipment dabbeled in familar colors as part of morale boosting efforts and pride instillation as well as mk 1 eyeball indentification, be odd to have a macheriel park into your angel cartel hanger painted in gallente military colors.

In an age where camo does less good as sensors in new eden are not so easily fooled by camo patterns these are the only reason left.
Current effective camoflage in new eden are 'chamelon' styled camos where thousands of sensors read the local area and repigment the body armor or equipment. While it may possibly fool the mk1 eyeball any layered up battlefield network would still ID the target quickly rendering the system ineffective.

Spacewise though chamelon systems are totally ineffective where as passive electronic warfare's performed between interstellar ships prevents engagements beyond the 250km range preventing locks or any good hits that far out.

CCP is more than welcome to use this excuse in the future.