Ships & Modules

What is it with people who cannot think and decide and ahhh fukk it

Google it or just trying the usual Domi for start

What am I doing? Giving advice to a numphty

@ Khaz

Yeah, 'Google it' is advice.

I know how to fit a Domi honey. I'm looking for advice on how to make a Navy Mega or a Navy domi optimal. I found a few good Kronos fits, but my Gallente BS isn't at V, and Tech 1 needs more tanking modules.

If you're not willing to discuss the subject, just ignore the thread.

Honestly, save your isk. Fly a T1 hull and kit it out with better modules. My view is of you can do a job in a T1 hull why buy a blingy ship and make yourself a target.. You play the game for enjoyment right? Try stuff out :-D

Couldn't a Hyperion with a few mods to increase Falloff technically use Blasters in PvE (mission running) to certain effect...?

Yes, but it would perform poorly. You need LOTS of cap to keep the LAR and guns running. You'll need at least an AB to maneuver, because your range stinks and since you got no tracking bonus, it'll be hard to hit anything in range smaller than a BS. In PVE the Domi is definately the way to go.


regards,

rob

I guess so...

I've come up with this:

(All V: 678 DPS, 5,8k optimal + 20.4k falloff, capstable with rep:on mwd:off guns:off, with those hardeners, it can tank 550dps from guristas)

Around 330 mil. ship+fit.

[Hyperion, Biatch Falloff]

Damage Control II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Large Armor Repairer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

100MN Microwarpdrive II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L

Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I

Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x5

But as said, Domi or Ishtar are far better...

Well, I don’t like drone boats that much. I feel they are a lot of hassle with all the aggro management. Not as bad as a golem, but still.

If you want rails, in my opinion you only have 2 options: Kronos and Vindi. And since you don’t really need the web bonus for missions, it will be a quit skill up to minni battleship 1, if you go Vindi.

Both ships are excellent, still I wouldn’t complain about buffing rails further (but that’s for another thread). Here’s where I see their pros and cons:

Kronos:
Pros: easy on the tank, long targeting range, plenty utility room, less ammo use, which makes using javelin and cn-anti cheaper.
Cons: low sensor strength, a little less damage potential

Vindi:
Pros: highest dmg potential (over 1000dps with rails only), more agile, rel. good sensor strength
Cons: more money has to be thrown on the tank, needs sensor booster, no utility

To sum it up, if you only have one ship for everything take the Kronos. If you want to destroy specific missions, take the Vindi. Oh, and don’t forget, both ships will work well with blasters in specific situations (damsel, attack of drones…)

A basic Kronos fit works like that:
[Kronos, lvl4]
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Imperial Navy Large Armor Repairer

Tracking Computer II
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
100MN Afterburner II

425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Drone Link Augmentor II
Small Tractor Beam II
Salvager I

Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Large Hybrid Burst Aerator II


Warden II x3
Hobgoblin II x5

Ishtar is a good ship for missions/exploration, and the Kronos is awesome at missions. The Ishkur is a nice little ship for high exploration as well.

As far as the domi goes, it's a good ship, but it got a little boring for me to fly after a while.


Edit: I should add the nice thing about the drone boats are that you can select your damage type, and the kronos has pretty insane range with the proper ammo + a sensor booster (the spy missions and worlds collide come to mind)

Nice to see a variety of ideas, although most of my eft efforts were focused on the navy mega, I'm looking at the mentioned navy Domi fits and am considering getting over my dislike for it. I guess building your fit around drones is better than around rails in most cases (QQ). I had been running 3s in my Ishtar, but I think level 4s deserve something fatter.

Anyhow, thanks for the discussion.

edit: spelling fail

For pve, the hyperion works best with a single armor repper. Add two hardeners and you still have room for three mag stabs, then three TC, ab, ad cap booster in the mids. It can actually fit 425mm rails like this too. Works well vs serpentis, guristas if they don't jam you, drones, and most any generic faction(mercs, EoM, etc).

I'm really fond of the navythron over the hype, though. Fit the lows with 1 armor repper, 2 hardeners, 3 mag stabs, and 2 cap power relays, mids with 3x TC and an afterburner, rigs with CCCs. With all TCs and hardeners active, it can run either the guns + ab, guns + repper, or repper + ab indefinitely, and all three for several minutes at a time, without sacrificing dps.