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Many dead in shooting at Batman premier in Denver...

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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#201 - 2012-07-24 20:08:27 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:


I think that you're missing the point here.

Why owe a gun?

Self defense.

Self defense from what threat?

Any.

But, what's the most common threat around?

People who owe firearms.

But, what people?

ANY people. Everyone can owe a firearm and you never know who you're gonna meet.

So the reason why you need a weapon it's the American like you, who owe firearms because American like you owe guns.

Oh, you may say, "but, i am NOT a threat!" But then in your own words, "you don't know who will greet ya". And you are everybody else's "who will greet me?". So you are armed because of their arms, and they are armed because of your arms.

So all in all, American arm themselves because of armed American. And the more American arm themselves, the more American will have to worry about all those armed out there, thus they will keep arming themselves.



You have a citation for this interesting bit of data? I would really like to see a poll or something on reasons for owning a gun.


The whole point being that weapons for self defense trigger the need to defend from weapons just flew over your head, right?



I guess it did considering the only just over 30% of our nation owns a firearm meaning that an awful lot of people appear to be failing to get on the defense train. Of course this doesn't even include the fact that many of us have already stated what we use our weapons for in another thread, which did not even include this self defense that every one claims. But what would I, a gun owner, know compared to somebody on the other side of the world right? Right?

Thank you for your lack of sources.

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Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
#202 - 2012-07-24 20:08:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Shameless Avenger
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:

...Those are serial killers. And only Alfredo Galan used a gun...


And who cares if the attacker has a gun, a knife, a machete or a potato thrower? Somebody burst trough the door, you shoot, period. Take this story for example:

Woman shoots and Kill's Intruder protecting her son while on phone with 911 operator - Linky

"Sarah McKinley, a young Oklahoma mother, shot and killed an intruder in order to protect her 3-month-old baby. This occurred on New Year’s Eve, just a week after the child’s father was taken by cancer."

And please note, the weapon in this case might have been purchase for a different purpose. Maybe the late husband was a turkey hunter, who knows. Thing is, there was a weapon in the house and this lady defended herself and her 3 months old baby.

"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro"

rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#203 - 2012-07-24 20:20:22 UTC
^ Maybe the husban bought it, to commit suicide with, since the cancer was too hard to take.

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#204 - 2012-07-24 21:30:20 UTC
Shameless Avenger wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:

...Those are serial killers. And only Alfredo Galan used a gun...


And who cares if the attacker has a gun, a knife, a machete or a potato thrower? Somebody burst trough the door, you shoot, period. Take this story for example:

Woman shoots and Kill's Intruder protecting her son while on phone with 911 operator - Linky

"Sarah McKinley, a young Oklahoma mother, shot and killed an intruder in order to protect her 3-month-old baby. This occurred on New Year’s Eve, just a week after the child’s father was taken by cancer."

And please note, the weapon in this case might have been purchase for a different purpose. Maybe the late husband was a turkey hunter, who knows. Thing is, there was a weapon in the house and this lady defended herself and her 3 months old baby.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/gun-sales-aurora-colorado-shooting-spike-tuscon-161409369--finance.html :thumbs up:

Also judging form pic: A complete nutter P

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#205 - 2012-07-24 21:34:40 UTC
Hey I like this idea!

It would mean that there is a reduced chance of being beat up for no reason and then charged with felony assault.
It would mean no tax revenuers waddling around looking to ticket you for anything.


What a moron. I grew up next to "his" city, where you cannot get a handgun without a $300 dollar permit and a special permission slip from the police chief, and forget about carrying it unless you are a cop, a celebrity, or a politician. I was raised in an environment where anybody who was bigger could decide to do whatever they wanted to you with extremely small chance of consequences, where most of the women I knew all had a "walk like a man mode" to keep from getting raeped if they had to walk home alone, where having a breakdown with your car on the Cross Bronx Expressway was comparable to a fighter pilot being shot down over enemy territory.

(where everybody acts "cosmopolitan" and "tolerant" yet they will pay a quarter million bucks at least for a 2BR no land house with a 10K/yr property tax out in Sayvile or East Islip and when they talk about it, you will hear "because the n**gers and s**cs can't get out this far" - bunch of hypocrits)


Yeah, that's Bloomberg's city.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#206 - 2012-07-24 21:39:24 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Hey I like this idea!

It would mean that there is a reduced chance of being beat up for no reason and then charged with felony assault.
It would mean no tax revenuers waddling around looking to ticket you for anything.


What a moron. I grew up next to "his" city, where you cannot get a handgun without a $300 dollar permit and a special permission slip from the police chief, and forget about carrying it unless you are a cop, a celebrity, or a politician. I was raised in an environment where anybody who was bigger could decide to do whatever they wanted to you with extremely small chance of consequences, where most of the women I knew all had a "walk like a man mode" to keep from getting raeped if they had to walk home alone, where having a breakdown with your car on the Cross Bronx Expressway was comparable to a fighter pilot being shot down over enemy territory.

(where everybody acts "cosmopolitan" and "tolerant" yet they will pay a quarter million bucks at least for a 2BR no land house with a 10K/yr property tax out in Sayvile or East Islip and when they talk about it, you will hear "because the n**gers and s**cs can't get out this far" - bunch of hypocrits)


Yeah, that's Bloomberg's city.


Ah yes...

"This year will go down in history! For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!" ~Adolf Hitler

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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#207 - 2012-07-24 21:42:44 UTC
^ those streets were alot safer, until the allies invaded germany, then alot of gun deaths started happening.

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#208 - 2012-07-24 22:15:16 UTC
rodyas wrote:
^ those streets were alot safer, until the allies invaded germany, then alot of gun deaths started happening.


Does this mean we need to fire up bomber command again?
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#209 - 2012-07-24 22:18:09 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Hey I like this idea!

It would mean that there is a reduced chance of being beat up for no reason and then charged with felony assault.
It would mean no tax revenuers waddling around looking to ticket you for anything.


What a moron. I grew up next to "his" city, where you cannot get a handgun without a $300 dollar permit and a special permission slip from the police chief, and forget about carrying it unless you are a cop, a celebrity, or a politician. I was raised in an environment where anybody who was bigger could decide to do whatever they wanted to you with extremely small chance of consequences, where most of the women I knew all had a "walk like a man mode" to keep from getting raeped if they had to walk home alone, where having a breakdown with your car on the Cross Bronx Expressway was comparable to a fighter pilot being shot down over enemy territory.

(where everybody acts "cosmopolitan" and "tolerant" yet they will pay a quarter million bucks at least for a 2BR no land house with a 10K/yr property tax out in Sayvile or East Islip and when they talk about it, you will hear "because the n**gers and s**cs can't get out this far" - bunch of hypocrits)


Yeah, that's Bloomberg's city.


America. A third world nation as far as safety goesStraight
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#210 - 2012-07-24 23:01:39 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
rodyas wrote:
^ those streets were alot safer, until the allies invaded germany, then alot of gun deaths started happening.


Does this mean we need to fire up bomber command again?


Hmm never heard of that before. Sounds like more bombs killed germans, then allied guns did. I suppose adolf Hitler should have outlawed bombs to make the german people more safe.

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#211 - 2012-07-24 23:32:14 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#212 - 2012-07-24 23:36:11 UTC


4 guys died saving their girlfriends, that's noble.

Please don't try to lump us all in with the stereotype... some of us are way better marksmen than that failure.... 4 guns and 12 dead in a crowded theater? Pathetic...

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Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
#213 - 2012-07-24 23:53:38 UTC
^ Could have used the costume money for a training session with Chris Costa... but this is America and looks are more important than results.

"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro"

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#214 - 2012-07-25 00:09:09 UTC



I am sure the AK versus AR debaters are going to be all over this for a while.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
#215 - 2012-07-25 00:15:13 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:

Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:

4 guys died saving their girlfriends, that's noble.

Please don't try to lump us all in with the stereotype... some of us are way better marksmen than that failure.... 4 guns and 12 dead in a crowded theater? Pathetic...

I am sure the AK versus AR debaters are going to be all over this for a while.


*Stealth trolling the ARs since page #3*

Shameless Avenger wrote:
..."police say 70 people were wounded". The .223 round really sucks that much?


Big smile

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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#216 - 2012-07-25 00:20:50 UTC
He should have brought those home made grenades to the theatre with him. His over-confidence cost him dearly.

I wonder if he took any firing or gun classes before he did this. I mean this could have been the first time he used an AR before. Kind of impressive in that light.

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#217 - 2012-07-25 00:39:23 UTC
rodyas wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
rodyas wrote:
^ those streets were alot safer, until the allies invaded germany, then alot of gun deaths started happening.


Does this mean we need to fire up bomber command again?


Hmm never heard of that before. Sounds like more bombs killed germans, then allied guns did. I suppose adolf ****** should have outlawed bombs to make the german people more safe.


Until the Russians took over Berlin P

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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#218 - 2012-07-25 05:07:27 UTC
^ Yeah then adofl hitler should have outlawed starvation. (but then it would have been hard to kill all the jews, a catch 22 there)

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Zack Korth
Livid CO.
#219 - 2012-07-25 06:02:05 UTC


i date beafy girls for this reason, human shield.. you can replace a girlfriend, a piece of your nose, or your life, not so much.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#220 - 2012-07-25 06:48:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer
Zack Korth wrote:


i date beafy girls for this reason, human shield.. you can replace a girlfriend, a piece of your nose, or your life, not so much.

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Ah never mind I am already going to hell without paperwork.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!