EVE General Discussion

The easiest thing to do is find some ass-end of NPC Nullsec and do your business there.
Problem is Nullsec in general might as well be called bubbleland.

What you purpose, and what the low/null-sec players are looking for is not the same. They want more people to shoot at, not just more people flying around in space.

I could understand your arguement, if there was not this thing called diplomacy. It is not blue for a reason, and it doesn't take rocket science to understand. That Ibis/shuttle/pod, hell what ever, could be a potential eyes for your enemy. That non blue ratter is stealing. So many reasons why NBSI should always be used.

It is not hard to form coalitions. Most alliances would, I presume, like the injection of numbers.

No the real reason why Null/Lo is less populated compared to Hi. Is the fact Hi sec carebears are lazy SOB's that want everything done for them. They refuse to use the options open to them. They refuse to "talk" to null/lo alliances. They just WHAAAAAA to CCP to fix that which is not broken.


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My space penis is not hard to grasp, it's quiet easy in fact.

I would love to see more mining and trading in low/ null sec. But

I'd say if you want more people in low and null sec then recruit them into your corps and educate them, so they know what they can expect, how to fight, when to fight, when to run. I think most new players simply don't understand how EVE works, because they're used to other MMO's where things work different.

I know that back when I first started I assumed that like in so many other games, a bigger ship was stronger and better than a smaller ship and wouldn't have an issue blasting them all to atoms. You end flying stuff you don't know how to fly and can't afford to lose, but you think you won't lose it anyway because it's bigger and stronger, right? But this isn't wow were a level 70 player can kill hordes of lvl 10 without breaking a sweat, but until you accept that and learn how EVE works you'll never be able to really delve into all that.

I think the question on everyone's mind is who kicked your ass when you jumped into their pocket of 0.0 ?

Thread started with an idea that is rather spot on...lo/nulsec inhabitants are responsible for the current state of lo/nulsec.

Thread was derailed by a bag of dicks that got spilled at the terminal.

Thread then became a cautionary tale of too much **** in your post for some, and a feel good thread for others.

The OP has a point. We can tell people to HTFU all we want, but when people shoot every ship they see, they don't need to be complaining that lowsec is the way it is.

A while back I went out to update a couple of market orders in deep lowsec. I just took a shuttle because I'm lazy and had one in my hangar. On my way back, a fast-locking tornado popped me on a gate. For some people, that's all the sign they need that lowsec is too dangerous for them. Then they never go back. Lowsec residents need to accept that its their own behavior that makes lowsec what it is today.

Well it is true that the hostility encountered by anyone entering low sec or to the a lesser extent null sec, is a major deterrent for many bears to go into those systems. What really do you expect? Most PVPers do not care about anything but PVP. They do not care if you are one day old in a noob ship or a 9 year vet in a 20 bil officer fit T3. They are just looking for something to kill. That is what PVP is.

Mind you PVP games would be a lot more fun if there was more mutual respect and less ganking, but that is just what you will find in any PVP game, it will never change.

One idea I had, and feel free to flame away, it is just a thought.

EVE has always been a "think outside of the box" kind of game. meaning that it is not made like other MMO's. why stop at the lines between high sec/low sec or carebears/PVPers? there is a lot of room for those lines to get a lot more blurry. Why does it have to be in this system any aggression is met by concord and the next system is a free for all. That does not seem logical with the variances in sec status. they have tried to add some variance with CONCORD being slower the lower sec you get and low sec does have gate guns. but there is still much room to blurr the lines.

I think there should not be such a solid line between high sec and low sec. I believe it should be based more on your sec status and less on the sec of the system you are in. CONCORD should still be limited to systems 0.5 sec and higher, even make 0.5 and 0.6 systems more dangerous by reducing CONCORD response times even more. CONCORD will still come, but unless you have very high sec status you will be dead when they get there. Each system would have a CONCORD response time based on sec rating as it is now. But the sec status of the player character should also impact this. As your sec status goes down you get a reduction in the response time of concord. for example someone with a sec status of say 5.0 gets 100% response time for concord based on the system response time. while a character with 0.0 sec status Concord would be 50% slower coming to their aid, and someone with -0.25 sec status would wait 75% longer. response time would get slower and slower until the point where you are enough of a criminal that CONCORD will not come to your rescue at all. This way each player characters choices to either be a law abiding citizen or participate in criminal actions will affect your safety, no matter what system you are in. high sec gankers can target other criminals in high sec with less risk while law abiding citizens get slightly better protection.

To further blurr the lines I would like to see some increase in defense for those with high security and faction standings in low sec. Gate guns are not enough. unless they became way more powerful. this would of course decline as the sec status when down. Decent protection for those with high faction standing in a 0.4 system declining in lower sec systems and declining as your faction standings go down. Not near what you get from CONCORD in high sec, but maybe empire navy ships coming to your aid. these would not be urber pop you in one shot invulnerable ships like CONCORD, they would be just normal NPC navy ships defending their loyal subjects. The higher your standing with the faction controlling that system the more powerful ships will show up to help you. Maybe for those with 8.0 or higher faction in a 0.4 system give the defenders a module that prevents warp disruptions and scramblers from working so the character they are defending has a chance to escape. I am not talking massive defense here that would destroy a gate camping fleet, just enough to soften the transition from high sec to low sec. 2-3 ships to help you increase your chances of survival. Just to give you a chance at escape. If you take the time to grind your sec status and faction standings up you should benefit from added protection over someone who regularly participates in criminal activity. A 3-4 ship gate camp should still have no problem getting their target, but 1-2 man gate camps are far more common and just as dangerous to a T1 indy or mining barge just passing through.
A battleship and a couple cruisers showing up to help could be just enough to help you escape. Even make this protection for non combat ships only. If a gate camp fires on a non combat ship it will not be such an easy kill. Give them a reason to not shoot non combat ships. It is still empire space although less secure. The Navy forces defending there should at least try to defend civilians.

Maybe null sec could also get some changes. If you are in NPC null and have high standings with the controlling faction you should be slightly safer than someone without good standings. Not to say safe, just slightly safer. Gate guns are little more than a nuisance, but if they pop the tackler, you may just get away. Even in SOV null sec you should be able to set up gate guns that will defend anyone in your alliance or even those set to blue and auto attack your enemies. It should be a pain in the butt to set up a gate camp in a system belonging to your enemies, they control that space, they should be able to add some static defenses.

This idea may suck bad. It was just a thought, maybe a brain fart. But all I was thinking was making the division between high sec and null sec not so defined. It should get gradually more dangerous. Not 0.5 sec is safe 0.4 sec you're dead.