EVE General Discussion

My first comments where please make it optional with a checkbox in the esc menu. But after hundreds of comments without any response from a responsible DEV I got very upset. And I am upset till now! So upset to hate CCP and EvE and to cancel my accounts after 4 years continued subscription. Just because no one answered to my concerns and ideas. I have tried it the normal way. But the normal way will be ignored from CCP!

ever consider that they are just too busy and understaffed atm?

1: they are holding the alliance tournament
2: they are short staffed in certain areas due to allotted vacation
3: they are trying to fix other issues that have been left far too long, I.E V3 on every ship and reworking mining barges/exhumer's
and although this may not be important to you specifically it is important to others.
4: they have to do all this AND trawl through a thread with many unhelpful and flaming posts just to work out what needs to be fixed.

then after all that they have to actually try work out how to fix it with coding and such without breaking anything else.

*shrug* to be quite honest, I'm not even sure what all the teams are and what they do which is why I suggested it. And on the contrary, I don't hate the devs. Though I must say, I've been civil in all my responses to the devs and have never and will never be otherwise towards them. I find it a shame that when someone who doesn't flame all the time (actually, at all) on the forums brings up an idea to make the dev teams a bit more transparent so that the misunderstandings about what each dev team and member actually does (from my perspective) I get a flippant and rude response. Pretty disappointing in my eyes. Had the response been "I'm not too keen on that idea, it could open the devs up to being flamed and insulted more." or something similar in context or tone I would have bowed out gracefully.

Maybe Becuase your question was, gasp, allready addressed.

Maybe you should take a chill pill.

The UI devblog for the 1.2 patch is not out yet. Until it does stop complaining please. Two of the main issues for the United Inventory is addressed on Sisi there are some corner cases not addressed but it is closer to what people want. With those 2 changes on Sisi there should be time for one more fix before this update goes live. I just hope all the bug reports get fixed also

CCP be accountable and transparent?

What are you smoking?

They will do it to all V3ed ships, the minmatar is already resized and rifters are now cruiser sized.. so no more fighter scale battles flying between huge behemoths.. the frigs are behemoths themselfs now.. We need them back to normal size, they now look like they would be operated by more people than one.

u best not blow my boat up when i moor it up in the dock!

i would be most displeased!

To follow up on CCP Affinity's post; releasing features as optional is something that we have a technical framework for, but: It's not possible in all cases and we can't do it for all features even when it's possible. In some cases it may not be possible to have the new and the old systems live side-by-side. We would have to maintain full backwards compatibility in the underlying frameworks to support the old systems and that might not always be possible or hamper the development of the new systems. We would not consider to do it for all features where it would be possible, for the reasons CCP Affinity mentioned above: Large code-dependencies and maintenance burden.

In general, we would possibly consider this when releasing new features but in general not when re-factoring older systems.

Affinity. I agree completely.

But I have to admit to understanding why people are being butthurt about this. Hek, I am still a bit butthurt about the Unified Inventory. I know better than to think that beating up Punkturis, a dev who was not on the project and is currently on a well deserved vacation, about a quote taken out of context is going to do any good though.

On the other side of the story, Inventory was released broken. Not rolled back and promises were made about weekly releases until "we were happy with it", even making the point that "we" meant CCP AND the playerbase. But communication and fixes have dropped off after some really good progress and "we", by and large, are still not happy with it (and I am not just talking about the crowd that will accept nothing short of a rollback). I think its gotten 80-90% there. I fully understand that we angry users have been a pain to deal with, and for my part offer apologies, but this still needs fixing.

People are mad about it and have some good reasons for being so. Hopefully with ATX (which I got totally sucked into and enjoyed thoroughly, thanks all!) out of the way, some people on that team or otherwise able to address the issue will be able to speak on coming fixes and plans. Which should help alleviate the feelings of helpless frustration and abandonment many feel when cursing the inventory UI on a daily basis.