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Minmatar Freedom Fighters Attacking FCO Members in Intaki

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Hans Nardieu
Federal Nationalist Party
#1 - 2012-07-22 04:12:18 UTC
I hereby denounce the actions of the insidious Minmatar paramilitary group known as Valkyr Industries, who have been preying on innocent members of the Federal Consensus Outreach during our Intaki operations.

Apparently, these 'Freedom Fighters' have been tooling around Intaki looking for targets of opportunity rather than defending their Republic against the forces of the Amarr.

While the FCO recognises that the failure of the Amarrians to put up a decent fight in the Empyrean Warzone is now entirely complete, it would be wonderful if our Allied Militia were not attacking us while we go about our business.

Not only this, but this group is also attacking members of the local Intaki Prosperity Initiative. I will say nothing of the irony of self-named Freedom Fighters attacking other self-named Freedom Fighters and simply point you in the direction of Amamake. where people like you belong.

Valkyr Industries, move along. You have no business pirating in Federal Space.

Col. Hans Nardieu (ret.) Chairman, National Party of the Federated Union of Gallente Prime Office of the Party Headquarters, Villore VII-6 Senate Bureau Station

Los Muertas
HDYLTA
#2 - 2012-07-22 04:32:29 UTC
The Republic may be your ally sir, but that does not mean that individual privateers within this nations service are, or should be considered as such. Further more just because people consider themselves "freedom fighters" does not automatically make them allied with other self proclaimed "freedom fighters"....unless of course when i got my "freedom fighter" decoder ring I missed that part, possible but not very plausible. Whats more, last month one of your own militia's corporation's did openly, and willfully, declare war on the Republic when they entered into a pact, with the Minmatar's enemies to openly deny systems to us. I speak of course of Shadows of the Federation backing Wolfsbrigade.

If the Valkyr did attack your militia then do what needs to be done, fight them, destroy them but do not think to lay the blame there. Shadows of the Federation weakened an already shakey alliance between our two people. If you see them, engage them but then you should already be engaging unknown or unverified and heavily armed forces in your territory anyways.
Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#3 - 2012-07-22 10:15:43 UTC
Hans Nardieu wrote:
I hereby denounce the actions of the insidious Minmatar paramilitary group known as Valkyr Industries, who have been preying on innocent members of the Federal Consensus Outreach during our Intaki operations.

Apparently, these 'Freedom Fighters' have been tooling around Intaki looking for targets of opportunity rather than defending their Republic against the forces of the Amarr.

While the FCO recognises that the failure of the Amarrians to put up a decent fight in the Empyrean Warzone is now entirely complete, it would be wonderful if our Allied Militia were not attacking us while we go about our business.

Not only this, but this group is also attacking members of the local Intaki Prosperity Initiative. I will say nothing of the irony of self-named Freedom Fighters attacking other self-named Freedom Fighters and simply point you in the direction of Amamake. where people like you belong.

Valkyr Industries, move along. You have no business pirating in Federal Space.


If Freedom Fighters have long been deemed outlaws by CONCORD, it is a for a reason. The only legal place where they are not is in the TLF. It would be highly hazardous to count on their neutrality even if you are not a slaver.

Of course, it is also possible that as said above, they are not really freedom fighter, considering their target choices.
Bataav
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
#4 - 2012-07-22 21:34:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Bataav
In my time as a capsuleer I have learned that there are two long running themes to life in Placid.

The first is that it is not uncommon for outlaws, pirates and freebooters to, on occasion, join one of the four militias in an attempt to diguise the reality of their activities. The second is that these groups have a habit of making their sport in and around the Intaki system.

Once again with Valkyr Industries' recent appearance in the area we find ourselves faced with the challenges they bring.

The IPI and ILF have long given voice to our concerns over the issues of capsuleer piracy, and so welcome the support from such unexpected quarters as the Federal Nationalist Party. Perhaps it is only when pilots from their own alliance fall victim to attack, the piracy threat is taken seriously.

As is usually the case, the aggressors have made grand statements regarding the pursuit of justice and acting against piracy. There will most likely be claim and counter claim while VKYR seek out their intended victims, but they are not the first to do so and no doubt, they shall not be the last.

Those of us who's interests are in the security, commerce and industry of Intaki and its people stand ready.

Intaki will endure.
Tycho Antus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-07-23 01:42:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Tycho Antus
Reclamation Technologies totally disapproved the recent attacks leaded by Valkyr Industries against innocent and honest citizens in Intaki.
We want to demonstrate our support against piracy in this system and hope that these aggressors will be wipe out rapidly.

Tycho Antus

Former Captain in the Federation Navy

Chief Executive Officer of Reclamation Technologies

Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#6 - 2012-07-23 02:03:11 UTC
The Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive would like to state our support against piracy activities in the Intaki system once again. While our security forces are deployed elsewhere, and no attacks have come upon I-RED assets within the system, we are watching the situation closely.

Assuming this is indeed piracy without legitimate cause, we offer our support to the Intaki Prosperity Initiative and Federal Consensus Outreach should they require assistance against these pirate elements in Intaki.

Respectfully,
Shosho Katrina Oniseki
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive.

Katrina Oniseki

Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#7 - 2012-07-23 11:30:41 UTC
Hans Nardieu wrote:
I hereby denounce the actions of the insidious Minmatar paramilitary group known as Valkyr Industries, who have been preying on innocent members of the Federal Consensus Outreach during our Intaki operations.

Apparently, these 'Freedom Fighters' have been tooling around Intaki looking for targets of opportunity rather than defending their Republic against the forces of the Amarr.

While the FCO recognises that the failure of the Amarrians to put up a decent fight in the Empyrean Warzone is now entirely complete, it would be wonderful if our Allied Militia were not attacking us while we go about our business.

Not only this, but this group is also attacking members of the local Intaki Prosperity Initiative. I will say nothing of the irony of self-named Freedom Fighters attacking other self-named Freedom Fighters and simply point you in the direction of Amamake. where people like you belong.

Valkyr Industries, move along. You have no business pirating in Federal Space.




It might be wise to remember that within recent memory certain entities within the Gallente Militia took arms beside the Amarrian 24th Crusade to maintain the power of slavery over Kamela system in the Bleak Lands during a critical night of battles and desperate skirmishing to set the shape of that conflict. This did a great deal of harm to notions of fellow-feeling and cooperative camaraderie between Matari and Gallente fighters and its not beyond the realms of possibility that some TLF pilots are angered by what they perceive as foul betrayal and disgusting collaboration with imperialist tyranny.

I do not say this to justify or apologize for acts of "piracy" - I simply mention our collective history so ignorance of certain facts might be appropriately countered.






The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom

Sakaane Eionell
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
#8 - 2012-07-23 22:51:37 UTC
Tycho Antus wrote:
Reclamation Technologies totally disapproved the recent attacks leaded by Valkyr Industries againts innocent and honnest citizens in Intaki.
We want to demonstrate our support against piracy in this system and hope that these agressors will be wipe out rapidly.

Katrina Oniseki wrote:
we offer our support to the Intaki Prosperity Initiative and Federal Consensus Outreach should they require assistance against these pirate elements in Intaki.

The Intaki Prosperity Initiative gratefully acknowledges the offer of support from our friends in I-RED and RECLT.

IPI pilots are actively engaged in defending Intaki against this threat to the system's stability. We will keep our friends and allies apprised as the situation develops.
Lance Drake Mandrell
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-07-23 23:05:52 UTC
As a regular member of the ILF, we're just taking it one game at a time when it comes to the opposition. At the end of the day, somebody is going to have to step up and make a play. I know I'll be giving 110 percent out there and I expect all of my teammates to do the same.

Darc Kaahar
Space Men
#10 - 2012-07-24 06:09:53 UTC
Hans Nardieu wrote:
preying on innocent members of the Federal Consensus Outreach during our Intaki operations.



Where is the proof of this? There was one incident of friendly fire which resulted in an apology on our behalf. No one was hurt and no ships were destroyed.

Bataav wrote:

The IPI and ILF have long given voice to our concerns over the issues of capsuleer piracy, and so welcome the support from such unexpected quarters as the Federal Nationalist Party. Perhaps it is only when pilots from their own alliance fall victim to attack, the piracy threat is taken seriously.


This is interesting. I thought you guys were meant to be neutral? According to your public ROE:

Quote:
We Do Not and Will Not Aid Either Side of Their War.

If ANY MEMBER of the Intaki Liberation Front is discovered sharing info, fleet time, or anything with anybody on ANY side of the Faction War (Caldari, Gallente, Matari, or Amarr), thereby destabilizing the ILF's stance on neutrality and destroying our ability to bring peace to Intaki, that member will be swiftly kicked from the ILF. In addition, that pilot will personally be flagged as -10.0 to the ILF. That means for the rest of time the pilot will be kill on sight (KOS).


After the aforementioned friendly fire incident, I was attacked by you and members of your corp. So you actively help members of the Gallente militia on a regular basis C/D? Seems like you are breaking your own ROE. You should be swiftly kicked and set -10 to ILF.


Lance Drake Mandrell wrote:
As a regular member of the ILF, we're just taking it one game at a time when it comes to the opposition. At the end of the day, somebody is going to have to step up and make a play. I know I'll be giving 110 percent out there and I expect all of my teammates to do the same.


You're an idiot.


See you on the battlefield.
Hans Nardieu
Federal Nationalist Party
#11 - 2012-07-24 07:08:14 UTC
Darc Kaahar wrote:


After the aforementioned friendly fire incident, I was attacked by you and members of your corp. So you actively help members of the Gallente militia on a regular basis C/D? Seems like you are breaking your own ROE. You should be swiftly kicked and set -10 to ILF.


Darc Kaahar wrote:
You're an idiot.


Irony.

Col. Hans Nardieu (ret.) Chairman, National Party of the Federated Union of Gallente Prime Office of the Party Headquarters, Villore VII-6 Senate Bureau Station

Lance Drake Mandrell
Doomheim
#12 - 2012-07-24 07:14:15 UTC
Darc Kaahar wrote:


You're an idiot.


See you on the battlefield.


This is a multitalented team. We're not going to rest on our laurels. When it comes down to it, there are two halves to any game and it's the score at the end that decides who wins.
Bataav
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
#13 - 2012-07-24 09:57:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Bataav
I believe I said in my earlier response that we would likely see claim and counter claim during this discussion and Mr Kaahar has been kind enough to oblige.
Darc Kaahar wrote:
Bataav wrote:

The IPI and ILF have long given voice to our concerns over the issues of capsuleer piracy, and so welcome the support from such unexpected quarters as the Federal Nationalist Party. Perhaps it is only when pilots from their own alliance fall victim to attack, the piracy threat is taken seriously.


This is interesting. I thought you guys were meant to be neutral? According to your public ROE:

Quote:
We Do Not and Will Not Aid Either Side of Their War.

If ANY MEMBER of the Intaki Liberation Front is discovered sharing info, fleet time, or anything with anybody on ANY side of the Faction War (Caldari, Gallente, Matari, or Amarr), thereby destabilizing the ILF's stance on neutrality and destroying our ability to bring peace to Intaki, that member will be swiftly kicked from the ILF. In addition, that pilot will personally be flagged as -10.0 to the ILF. That means for the rest of time the pilot will be kill on sight (KOS).


After the aforementioned friendly fire incident, I was attacked by you and members of your corp. So you actively help members of the Gallente militia on a regular basis C/D? Seems like you are breaking your own ROE. You should be swiftly kicked and set -10 to ILF.

Mr Kaahar I believe you need to re-read the ILF's policy. The quoted text refers to the sharing of intelligence or flying as part of a militia fleet in direct action against an opposing militia fleet. It focuses on the matter of acting in the interests of one of the militias instead of Intaki's own.

To clarify for those interested, in the past there were additional clauses in the ILF RoE that focussed specifically on militia interaction, but as has already been highlighted in this discussion, it is not uncommon for pirates to hide behind a militia badge to disguise their true intentions. Valkyr Industries is a good example of this.

The ILF leadership removed these clauses in recent months, as they severely restricted the ability of ILF pilots to challenge piracy in some cases. Our current policy actually means that we are more neutral than before. Rather than treat the militias as a special case, dealing with them on an entirely different basis to all other pilots, we now apply standings and interact with them on their own merits, regardless of their own affiliations.

The ILF is now able to enjoy positive standings with corporations and pilots from all four militias. The ILF is also neutral to a great many corporations and pilots from all four militias. And, the ILF has applied negative standings to some corporations and pilots from all four militias.

The ILF leadership believe this to be the most balanced and neutral approach possible.

None of this, however, prevents I, or any other ILF pilot, from defending our interests against miltia pilots who aggress us, Valkyr Industries included.

Darc Kaahar wrote:
Hans Nardieu wrote:
preying on innocent members of the Federal Consensus Outreach during our Intaki operations.


Where is the proof of this? There was one incident of friendly fire which resulted in an apology on our behalf. No one was hurt and no ships were destroyed.

Mr Kaahar if there was a single unfortunate event then perhaps you could explain it away as an accident. As something you regretted. But the events of 20th July between VKYR and FCO, in one of the asteroid belts in Intaki, were not a one off:

Was the destruction of an FDU pilot's Atron and capsule in Agoze on 17th July an unfortunate accident?

Was the destruction of an FDU pilot's Thorax in Ostingele on 11th July an unfortunate accident?

Was the destruction of an entire FDU fleet of Myrmidon, Falcon and Atron who were on active duty in Pynekastoh, Black Rise on 6th July an unfortunate accident?

Mr Kaahar, your corporation's combat record reveals you to be as great a threat to your own allies, as to your enemies.
Malcolm Khross
Doomheim
#14 - 2012-07-24 12:34:26 UTC
On behalf of the Wirykomi Honor Guard, I would like to extend an offer to the Intaki and the inhabitants of Placid for our assistance against piratical and dishonorable elements in the region. While Wirykomi Honor Guard does officially operate as part of the Caldari Militia, our focus remains on anti-piracy operations in the areas we operate in.

Should the Intaki wish to enlist the support of the Wiyrkomi Honor Guard in assistance against these pirates, our services will be offered without charge and without hesitation. This offer is to be considered in tandem with our partners in I-RED as we recognize the continued cooperation between the Intaki people and Ishukone, this is not an attempt to impose Wiyrkomi interests in the area.

~Malcolm Khross

Glippo
Hello. Yes.
#15 - 2012-07-24 16:48:30 UTC
I would just like to say, that I, as a self appointed representative of the Great Caldari State; fully support the efforts of the Intaki Liberation Front to fight for freedom from the scum that is the Gallente Federation.

However the Aggression shown towards a good friend of ours, the great and most beautiful Miss Sparkles is not acceptable.
The destruction of her Ship, a Drake class Battlecruiser (of wondrous Caldari design) was a step too far. Pilots of the Intaki Liberation Front attacked, and mercilessly slaughtered her without warning.

The Intaki Liberation Front was given the opportunity to resolve this most unsavoury situation Diplomatically, but ignored all of our pleas to avoid bloodshed.

Aggression like this cannot be left unchallenged, and the pilots of Valkyr Industries agreed unanimously to meet this horrible threat, a threat to our very lives; with all the courage and determination that we can muster.
John Revenent
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#16 - 2012-07-24 17:11:54 UTC
I urge the pilots behind the attacks in the Intaki system, and surrounding area to stop these needless hostile operations.

Ishukone Loyalist - Private Contractor

"Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned."

Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#17 - 2012-07-24 17:17:19 UTC
Glippo wrote:
and the pilots of Valkyr Industries agreed unanimously to meet this horrible threat, a threat to our very clones


Fixed that for you.

Katrina Oniseki

Sakaane Eionell
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
#18 - 2012-07-24 18:03:08 UTC
Malcolm Khross wrote:
On behalf of the Wirykomi Honor Guard, I would like to extend an offer to the Intaki and the inhabitants of Placid for our assistance against piratical and dishonorable elements in the region.

Thank you, Mr Khross. IPI will remember this generous offer, along with others that have been made, as we move forward.
Bataav
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
#19 - 2012-07-24 19:45:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Bataav
Glippo wrote:
However the Aggression shown towards a good friend of ours, the great and most beautiful Miss Sparkles is not acceptable.
The destruction of her Ship, a Drake class Battlecruiser (of wondrous Caldari design) was a step too far. Pilots of the Intaki Liberation Front attacked, and mercilessly slaughtered her without warning.

I'm pleased another of Valkyr Industries' representatives has decided to bring Miss Sparkles' involvement to the fore as I was unsure whether to myself or not.

It is correct that following a short period of bumping and targetting an ILF pilot, on the undock of the Astral Mining station in Intaki, Miss Sparkles warped to one of the asteroid belts. The pilot in question, in accordance with the ILF RoE referred to earlier, considered this action as hostile and an invitation to engage away from the sentry guns of the station. A short time later Miss Sparkles lost her Drake.

Glippo wrote:
The Intaki Liberation Front was given the opportunity to resolve this most unsavoury situation Diplomatically, but ignored all of our pleas to avoid bloodshed.

Miss Sparkles contacted the ILF via our public channel, seemingly unaware of the reasons behind the loss of her ship and requested reinbursement. Following a short investigation, negotiations were proceeding and it appeared there had been a misunderstanding. Miss Sparkles assured the ILF that she had not intended her actions at Astral Mining to be taken as aggression, and appeared to genuinely regret the circumstances that led to the loss of her ship.

Conversations between some members of the ILF leadership involved in discussions with Miss Sparkles, had remarked on her calm approach and understanding. Such was the positivity of the conversations, there had even been the discussion of potential mining in the area. The negotiations had reached the point where an amount of isk to replace the loss her ship had been offered and accepted. It appeared we were all able to move on.

Independently of these events, but during the course of the investigation and negotiations that followed, the ILF encountered and were engaged by Valkyr Industries in Intaki for the first time. This was followed shortly afterwards by an unexpected and, at the time, unexplained declaration of war. It was only as the discussions with Miss Sparkles were entering their final stages that Darc Kaahar of Valkyr Industries made contact, and we learned the war was to be fought in the interests of "justice" and "honour" and to exact revenge for the loss of the Drake.

Darc, who is neither CEO or listed as an official diplomat of his corporation, was informed that we were already negotiating with Miss Sparkles, but he was insistent that her own wishes and free will were to be totally disregarded. We were told that she was "naive", that she was "stupid". We were told that she would that she would "do as she was told".

Mr Kaahar made it clear very quickly that he was not interested in a peaceful resolution. "War will come to Intaki" he informed us.

The ILF sympathises with Miss Sparkles. As Mr Kaahar rode roughshod over the agreement that had been reached, she expressed her dismay and embarrassment at his aggressive attitude. She confirmed that despite her intention to accept the isk, which would have afforded her a new Drake, she could not convince him to change the course of violence he was so intent in following.

Such is Mr Kaahar's unfetted anger that he was even seen to lash out with verbal attacks at his own pilots as they expressed their own opinions, in the Intaki local channels, regarding a variety of topics such as the ILF's political goals, or the conflict between Federation and State.

In an attempt to avoid the back and forth of "he said, she said" arguments, I have taken the step of making all relevant communication logs available from the ILF servers. As these logs cannot be provided directly via my response here, I will provide access upon request. These logs will reveal just how close we came to a peaceful resolution for Miss Sparkles before Valkyr Industries were involved.

As diplomat for the Intaki Liberation Front, and Representative to the IPI Alliance Council I can officially put on record that it is our view that Mr Kaahar is a figure of violence and unthinking rage. His corporation is a blight upon the Intaki sytsem and a disgrace to the Republic militia.

The offer of isk to Miss Sparkles still stands and will be paid, as soon as Valkyr Industries retract their war.
Degnar Oskold
Moira.
#20 - 2012-07-25 14:14:46 UTC
Malcolm Khross wrote:
On behalf of the Wirykomi Honor Guard, I would like to extend an offer to the Intaki and the inhabitants of Placid for our assistance against piratical and dishonorable elements in the region. While Wirykomi Honor Guard does officially operate as part of the Caldari Militia, our focus remains on anti-piracy operations in the areas we operate in.

Should the Intaki wish to enlist the support of the Wiyrkomi Honor Guard in assistance against these pirates, our services will be offered without charge and without hesitation. This offer is to be considered in tandem with our partners in I-RED as we recognize the continued cooperation between the Intaki people and Ishukone, this is not an attempt to impose Wiyrkomi interests in the area.



And thus is the insidious link between the Intaki and our sworn foes the treacherous Caldari State exposed! For why else would the Caldari Militia offer to leap to aid the Intaki were they not already agents in their employ?

Space Brothers of the Valkyr! This wardec has revealed the true face of the Intaki snake! Let us join to crush them and collect their bitter tears!
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